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12/16/2014 9:02:42 PM
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Why do people insist on ruining the raid?

I want to run the Crotas End without any cheesing! Is that too much to ask for? I never experienced the raid, and any group I join just wants to cheese the hell out of it! [u][b]CHEESING[/b][/u] is [b][u]RUINING[/u][/b] the new DLC raid experience for me :(.. I was in a group that wiped on the lamp maze twice, and on the 3rd attempt, everyone said F it, let's cheese. They just sent one guy who was experience to the end of the maze and died. The Aggro of ALL of the mobs stayed on his ghost. Meaning I, who never experienced the raid before, now get to walk with the weight of darkness all the way from the start to end, with no mobs! How is that fun? It took literally 15 minutes for me and the other 4 to make it to the end without lamps. Then, on the second part, they used the warlock self res glitch to cheese the gatekeepers. I was told to jump off the cliff and kill myself. When I refused, everyone called me a troll and an asshole. So falling into peer pressure, I killed myself and just watched a Warlock jump around for 5 minutes, die, then self res. now after this, I just get to mindlessly sit on a platform and snipe thralls on the other side of the map for 10 minutes. At this point I just quit.. I tried one other group, and when they immediately started with "are we gonna cheese the lamps?" I quit immediately. So again.. Is it too damn much to ask for to do a raid without any God damn cheesing? I paid to have fun! I didn't pay to walk in a dark line for 15 minutes. I didn't pay to mindlessly snipe thralls that can't even Aggro me. God.. So beyond frustrated. This is just the icing on the cake of all the shit that makes this game so rage inducing...
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  • Nobody wants to do the raid properly. They want to solo the first chest, then get a Crota checkpoint and cheese him. It's pathetic.

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  • Oh yeah same happenned to me at the lamps on my first go at Crota's End yesterday. Then we cheesed the bridge. Then we tried to cheese Crota but we couldn't pull it off so everyone quit. I still don't know what the heck was going on the whole time. Everytime I asked someone "So what happens here? What do we need to do?" instead of giving me the legit way to do it they just tell me the easy way. So annoying.

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  • This is just a beta test for when the actual raid comes out in jan. They need everyone to find all the cheese. Makes their job easier than finding it themselves. But even then people will always find a way around something.

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  • Because people want everything thats the best simply given to them without doing anything

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  • I just heard about the cheese today. Bungie will hopefully patch it soon...damn scrubs cant even count to three and swing a blade. Pathetic cheesers.

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  • System? We r gonna run it in 2 hours

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  • I used to only have one character and was obsessive about doing every bounty and every daily etc. Now that I have one of each character I don’t have anywhere near enough time to do that with all three characters, so I pick and choose what I do. It’s meant that I still haven’t levelled them all up to 31 yet and my team has left me behind in terms of the new raid. As a result the game feels like less of a chore and I’m enjoying it much more. I know a lot of people who have three of the same characters, who still do this every day with all three of them! I’ve jumped in on some strikes etc to get the bounties and they just run to the end. I felt like saying to them “you do realise you don’t have to do those bounties…you don’t seem to actually enjoy the game”. Most of the people I talk to are only interested in doing the new raid now, so they can get to level 32. I can’t help thinking what’s the point? If you’re only interested in getting to 32 what do you do when you get there? I wanted to level up to 31 to make the rest of the game easier, and I’d like to be 32, but I’ll get there when I get there. I haven’t even tried the new raid yet, or the PS4 exclusive strike because I’m trying to make the DLC last as long as possible. It seems like a lot of people just want to be able to say I’m level 32 and don’t actually enjoy playing the game. I’d have still liked to have carried on with the VOG. There are a few raid guns I’d still like and for me it has the best drop rate for exotics. I’d got to know the people I was raiding with and don’t know if I’ll bother starting again with another team of random people.

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  • Well i understand what you mean . I didnt like cheesing the VOG. But the bossfight in this one is stupid so yeah cheese the new raid while u still can

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  • You can solo it.

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    • What console are you? I'm on xbox one, and we don't cheese. They're going to patch it before the hard raid comes out so I'm trying to get my team used to doing it properly and fast. More than welcome to join!

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    • What console you on I plan to do it legit every time that way when hard drops I'll be used to doing it frequently without cheesing

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    • 작성자: PTG Kirk 12/18/2014 7:50:11 AM
      I understand your point but, at the same time, I like cheesing. Ive beaten the damn thing, last thing I want to do is "challenge" myself with the same challenge, multiple times. Not fun. Or challenging. All Im saying is that repetitive crud is terrible and Id rather just get it done quick. The luster has gone. And dont say anything about my k/d on my [u]only[/u] win, deaths arent under my control when the group wants to wipe Edit: Inb4 "Then dont do it" replies. I want cool stuff

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    • You fool! Everything is better with cheese. :)

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    • Tbh people who only cheese the raid annoy me...it doesn't take that long to learn each parts mechanics after that the raids pretty easy

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      • Because majority of people are LAZY and dont like an actual challenge, they want everything given to them, and hate really having to work to get it, i know how you feel, only reason ive not even attempted to play any type of CE raids until all the glitches are fixed, once i hear an uproar of bitching from all the people who can basically only play games on normal,and anything above that difficulty wise is not fun for them because they just plain and simple suck at games. and forum gets filled with "bungie/deej why'd you fix this cheese or that cheese", THEN ill start considering trying out the new dlc raid,but until that point ill stick with VoG

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      • Many people play for gear and not for fun

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        • Cheesing is for noobs. There is a thread in here somewhere that you can use to find raid teams. You might be able to find a decent team in there.

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        • I think, it's a lot more enjoyable and challenging, when you don't cheese. I was on VoG team once that cheesed it, it was so boring . Anyway I'm 360, so if anyone wants to do some raiding, feel free to add me. Gamer same as post.

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        • I bet you was in a group that pushed Atheon and don't even lie! Then I bet you did it again after that

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        • 작성자: tombok90 12/18/2014 4:50:02 AM
          if im on and got 3 hrs to kill ill help ur group out. i finished it twice but im pretty fing dumb and never remember any of the mechanics except crota. heck i still cant find chests in gorgon maze. perfect team mate if u want a blind run, good enough to complete it, doesnt know the mechanics, just does as hes told. except on last boss fights i know those in and out.

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        • Try to get some regular group of ppl to play with. Its funny to me because the new raid should be SO MUCH HARDER, yeah, no. The new raid is easy as f and cheesing it is just silly. Cant wait to see if hard mode will pose some challenge.

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        • What console are you on? I have a team of 5 and we usually get a random on. We never cheese raids. No fun in it. The raids are can be a good laugh, so why waste it.

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        • Should have did it last Tuesday on release no cheeses then lol. It was so much fun going in blind took 4 hours to get to Crota knowing literally nothing about the raid.

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        • I hate cheesing. My group and I never cheesed Crota and we beat him 6 times. Our record time right now stands at 39 minutes. It's so bloody easy, idk why people would want to cheese something this simple.

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          • Screw that. I just hit 30 today. If someone wants to help me cheese thru crota add me on psn KaviarGold. I'll cheese anything for loot I'm at my wits end

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          • I'm to the point of -blam!- it cheese it. Blew through the whole thing till crota we been stuck there for damn near 8 hrs, tried all kinds of strategies and stuff and still wipe.

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