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작성자: Dioxyd
11/19/2014 6:22:50 PM
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winter's run... are you joking?
Just tried winters run nightfall. You removed the safe zones. My feedback: you are just insane. This joke of a fight just turned idiotic without safe zone. Bravo for more unrequested, moronic & untested changes.
Edit...
1. There is still a way to get under the deck
2. You can stay at the entrance
3. If you are "man" enough, you will stand in the middle, ignore every game mechanics and pew pew the boss to death while 20+ bad guys shoot at you.. Like a boss!
Case closed :-)
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#feedback
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3 답변I saw a thread telling the devs to post [i]their[/i] run the NF the "right" way and post it on YouTube. Anyone agree they should?
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14 답변Spot on. What a absolute idiotic patch. Bungie, can you please send us a user manual so we can play this game the way you want? Its such a stupid fix. In every battle it is strategic to use the environment to your advantage. Look at real world situations. If your hunting lions, do you do it on the ground or up a tree where they can't kill you? It the same with the winter run boss. If they wanted to actually patch it, make it so he can fit under the stairs or his foot stomp can kill those hiding under it... But having an open world game with invisible walls and exclusion zones is ridiculous. For the love of god bungie, fix the REAL issues. The VOG bugs. The RNG Loot system. Separating PVE and PVP weapon stats. The disconnects. Your priorities are wrong and the way you go about it even worse.
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5 답변Omg you can't get to the cheat spot that makes it super easy and boring. Shut the f u c k up idiot and get better.
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1 답변Amazing how they fix shit that's not broken (that NOBODY is asking for!), and ignore the myriad of real, identified problems.
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1 답변Seriously? It's not that bloody difficult. I've done it on Nightfall without the damn 'safe spot'
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2 답변I just hang near the back by the big rock. So long as you watch your back for shanks and stealth vandals, your fine. Nothing else comes back there. I call it 'Cheddar Gorge' 😄
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It's called Bad Level Design. They implement often in this game. Instead of making arenas that use the terrain to create obstacles and force interactions, the fall in love with the art design and don't consider the actual mechanics of what they built. The Shrieker at Phogoth is just another lazy design too. Does it pop up anywhere else in the game? I haven't seen one that I can recall. And the glass ceiling on the "open environment", or the random kill zones if you get of their predetermined path.
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7 답변Everyone who says: fight like a guardian or war isn't fought that way. The -blam!-? So you mean to say that, in real life or in any other fps, you just HAVE to jump in the middle of things and hope for the best? Nah, -blam!- that. Why add sniper rifles in a game, when you are not allowed to camp in a safezone. Only an idiot would solo something where there's no place to hide and to take down enemies one by one. It's only realistic to have safe spots. You might be able to jump in the middle of things and cause mayhem with your titan, but my Hunter would rather do everything calculated.
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1 답변4. You're a idiot for letting them know there is still a way under the deck. Kill yourself.
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1 답변작성자: OPTIMUSCRS 11/20/2014 4:52:11 PM
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3 답변There's an incredible lack of freedom of play in Destiny, and it's a shocking amount. Not only are we limited to only so many activities a week, Bungie now feels it necessary to block things that the PLAYERS discovered. What happened? How is it that a "safe zone" is a bug, but nerfing all of our weapons to make it harder is a "feature". Why is it such a big deal that people have 'safe' zones in strike missions? Your loot system sucks, your limitations on players sucks, your constant nerfing of weapons sucks and your balancing of the game is garbage... Bungie, don't punish us because YOU can't balance a game, People wouldn't "cheese" bosses if they didn't have to. Bungie is just dropping the ball completely on Destiny and PvE isn't going to last. They have only ever fixed "bugs" that made the game bearable for us and have barely even addressed the things we actually want fixed. Lets "fix" Winters Run and NERF all of the exotic weapons! That's a great idea! While we're at it, let's add more benefits and events for the PVP crowd and continue to let the PVE crowd wait. It's a good thing GTA V and Dragon Age come out today.
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4 답변I understand that this was necessary, but the amount of adds the spawn during this fight make it seem like you are fighting two bosses at once. There is very little time to take cover without either breathing down your neck. If the remove a few shanks a vandal, and drop the health on the servitor a tad then people wouldn't need to cheese these fights.
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5 답변I'd love to see some videos of you folks running out into the fray and beating it. Please post a video and send me the link. No hiding, none of that. I'll be waiting. Anyhow, the entrance is the best spot anyway.
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1 답변I don't understand why it was considered cheesing anyway. If you go to the right side of the porch, you can definitely die...and quickly. If you go to the left side, you can still die from the shanks and servitors...and it's easy to fall off and down into the abyss below. I would think in a battle where you are greatly outnumbered and outgunned you would look for the safest spot possible...so why are these spots now becoming inaccessible? It's one thing to find the boundaries of the AI, but another thing altogether to take away places on the map that are still in danger, but safer than just running around like a chicken with its head cut off. Anywhere over by the rocks you are going to get constantly pummeled by the sniper Vandals, Shanks, Stealth Vandals, and dregs...anywhere up near the porch, the servitors, shanks, stealth vandals, and regular vandals will spawn in behind you. It forces people to play in a way that they don't want to play. This is especially bad for Hunters, who are supposed to be long-range/snipers by definition. I can't think of a single strike now that allows a Hunter to find a good hiding place and snipe away...it forces us to play like a Titan...running and gunning in a frantic chaos. Not the best when you have a scout rifle primary and a sniper rifle secondary.
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3 답변I just want to know if we where never intended to use areas like that in the first place why are they in the game. I for one am tired of things being fixed that aren't really broken. Like being able to finish the raid without half my team lagging out. Or how about the buffs to some of the exotics they said they would over a month ago.
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1 답변I don't mind admitting I hid under deck or on top of rock. It's a strategy now I will have to make new one( new hiding spot). Why the hell run out when you can be safe. I would do the same thing in the real world. Besides isn't that how castles were made make this little hole to shoot out of so the chances of survival are greater.
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6 답변작성자: Xs1ght 11/18/2014 10:51:30 AMI don't understand this fix.. Surely there were more important issues? Was it because this was the easiest? What about the raid issues, your golden goose of Destiny.. What about damn minotaurs invincible and regeneration damage? Change your focus!
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1 답변Destiny seems to be the only game that patches their game and in the process screws there players over I really don't get these kinda of fixes it's not like they were giving out great rewards for doing these recycled strikes anyway
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2 답변Bungie please block all entrances to the rooms and make it inaccessible so people need to go out into the room and can't hide in the entrances.
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4 답변To throw your BS back atcha, Bungie: your level of douchebaggery grows... I solo nightfalls and weeklys, not because I have to, but because I enjoy just chillin' and shooting stuff. Now that's impossible for this run. I agree, for teams of three, stay outta there, you can revive each other, but solo...geebus Murphy. Fix the other fiascos instead of getting wrapped up in this petty BS.
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10 답변작성자: JD 11/18/2014 12:01:12 AMIt's beyond easy. Just keep peaking out from hill that you enter from. You can also kill the archon in 30 seconds with arc damage. As soon as he jumps out POp him with a full clip from patience in time half his damage will be gone. Immediately switch to arc damage rocket launcher fire 3 rockets into him then finish him off with Fatebringer also arc damage.
