Okay, so they've hit shotguns with the nerf hammer, and I can say that I used shotguns quite often before the nerf. They weren't hit too hard though now they're basically just melees with extended range. I wonder if Bungie realizes that some shotguns now lose to moves like Stormfist.
Anyway, this is about Fusion Rifles. Fusion rifles are from what I've experienced in my many games of Crucible, very overpowered. They can hold up to 20+ shots, reload quickly, and be precharged to score instant kills as soon as you expose yourself to the enemy. They have better range, better power, and don't even require aiming for a lethal area to win with. I've been shot across a pretty large distance with a fusion rifle and had no chance of surviving it. I've seen my teammates score 2 for 1s with them, and we've gone against a team of Fusion Rifle only users in Skirmish. I'm not bad at Destiny by any means, but I have no idea how you're supposed to beat a gun that lines up a kill before you're in harm's way. They have just as much range as an auto rifle with the power of a shotgun (per energy bolt). If they only had say... 3 of 4 shot mags this wouldn't be a big deal. However, there are some with up to 6. I wouldn't say that Fusion rifles need to be nerfed hard, but it should at least require landing half of the energy bolts on a target before you net the kill. There is no real situation where a fast charging fusion rifle is a bad choice. They can charge and shoot faster than a double melee, they're steady enough to use accurately while jumping or falling, and they're even good to use when cutting corners or peeking over cover.
As a user of Scout Rifles I'm used to trying for my kills and it's only fair that others have to try for theirs.
EDIT- evidently you can't use apostrophes in polls.
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1 답변I don't say it's easy mode because you gotta charge and track for instance if you come up On some with a fusion rifle I close quarters it's game over fusion rifle cannot charge quick enough if he sees you coming from a mile away on the other hand he will quickly gun you down
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4 답변The way it NEEDS to be is, fast charge rate=lower damage, range, more spread. Slower charge = more damage, more range less spread. The way it is now is any charge=enough to kill.
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1 답변Charge shots for high damage at mid range. Seems fine to me. Try complaining about shotguns... You'll have an easier time
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4 답변Waahhhh. Stuff is killing me and I choose not to use them. Nerf! Nerf! Nerf! Waahhhhhhhhh
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1 답변Shut the f*** up stop b****ing about stupid s*** before they f***ing nerf everything!!!!!!!
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1 답변Op - the counter to fusion rifles is single point sling. There i said it. Now you know. Go use red death or something and learn to strafe better. Victory is yours, i assure you.
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3 답변Kinda agree (see the plan C comments), but in very few cases is the FR generically op - it's usually down to its owner understanding it properly, which is fair play. I personally think some of the auto rifles are in need of a nerf - not Suros, I'm thinking the shadow price? I use that gun, and it pretty much owns anything that can't one shot you :)
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6 답변The only fusion rifle weapon I agree is OP is Plan C. I own it and can objectively say it ruins any other special weapon at long-mid to close range. It's ability allows you to swap to it and (almost) instantly fire it without need of a charge time.
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3 답변Regarding fusion rifles, I disagree completely. Excluding exotics that I'm unfamiliar with, the charge time itself keeps fusion rifles in a balance with the rest....IMO. If you find yourself getting constantly murked one way or another, you should first rethink your play style and strategy. If you charge into a room and die 9/10 times, maybe consider slowing down a bit. Create distance with SR/snipers. Don't just jump straight to "nerf this gun" because you simply aren't faring well in pvp. As long as snipers are 1 shot kills when headshot I'm good to go.
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1 답변All weapon types are good in crucible, hopefully that is understood. I'm marking down an effective beside your name against Fusion-type weapons.
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1 답변I've found erratic dodging helps, or range with cover. A few precision hits at someone running at you in cover will lose out big, 5 body shots with pulse rifles work too. Or if you really hate them, grenade where they're running to and launch yourself away, if you're totally badass you won't even look back as the poor fusioner takes a tumble.
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7 답변Just stop. Dont you know it's shotguns? No wait, its high stab ars, hold on, the golden gun is the real issue... Every weapon type and super has its weakness. If you can't see the big picture, youre only considering half the relevant info.
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My Plan C feels like a fusion rifle sniper. Seriously it's effective kill radius with minimal aiming is pretty ridiculous. I don't like using it though so I run a Suros or Vex and a shotgun with range ADS and hammer forged. I voted yes on easy mode, simply because I know what can be done with Plan C in Crucible.
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The only comment i would say is, the precharge shouldn't exist. It should charge and fire once you pull the trigger. Especially since they are pretty much long range shotguns. Possibly an over heating function to keep people from pre-charging for so long. Since they are very powerful missing should be a penalty. Just like sniping. But since they are pre-charge capable they become one hit kills from a significant distance.
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3 답변Mother -blam!-er. You fail to realize that a NERF would not only affect your poor little 8 minute Pvp game but ALL OF PVE. Stop bitching please. With our luck, they'll listen to you and "fix" that instead of a major issue
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2 답변I'll say it this way and I'm sure everyone can agree. Yes the gun is slightly OP, walk a corner and dead. But think of it this way, what will they do to fix it? If you lower the charge rate it'll make the gun useless, if they nerf it the gun won't get kills because a shotgun,auto rifle, etc. will out class the gun. If they alter it then it'll become useless, making them less accurate would probably be the best bet. Some fusions rifles aren't good because they have a high recoil but others like the plan C or the Wizard 77 kick ass. I play with them every once in awhile just to throw that in
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1 답변I was playing crucible today, got one shot by a shotgun long range. Also got one shot by fusion rifle.
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1 답변If you use cover to your advantage and strafe unpredictably, you'll beat fusion rifles every time.