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작성자: SRT Suppressed 10/17/2014 6:54:47 PM
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Congratulations to the 99%

Bungie has made it clear they will consistently capitulate to the loud crowd of people, however large or small they may actually be, who can't stomach the challenges and idiosyncrasies of a loot based game. To the 1% who worked their asses off before the youtube videos and pushing glitches, I applaud your efforts even if Bungie no longer will. Up to this point Destiny has been an amazing game. Clearly we as players have elected towards an egalitarian system where those who work to excel will get penalized, and those who can't will reap the benefits of crying as loud and constantly as possible. In the end its just a game, but I think this speaks loudly about the future of gaming and more generally the attitudes of players (which I have no doubt carries over into their everyday lives). I can only hope that this change in trajectory will curtail the endless parades of complaints and rants. Take your victory humbly 99%, and I wish you all the best for your future attitude towards the hard truths and challenges of an unfair world. (Percents are not to scale guys. As most people have pointed out its more likely a loud minority) [u]In retrospect[/u] I was pretty salty when I wrote this. Must have been wiping my tears away with the dictionary. Yes, I should have expected this. I guess i'm a purist and a dreamer who preferred the game unadulterated. Hoped it would stay unique; i'm sure it might in some ways. Oh well. That's not the point. I'd encourage people to bring issues to forum in a different light. Let's change our tone so that when these issues arise in the future we might get a proportional response. If Bungie's listening to us, let's start giving them something worth listening to. [u]Addendums[/u] As to the 1%: there is [b]nothing[/b] elitist about determination to overcome a challenge. It's simply a [b]choice[/b] you make. I firmly believe everyone could have persevered if they chose to. I'm just applauding the people who made that choice and questioning whether we as a community feel our standard reaction should be penalizing them due to an overwhelmingly negative responses and unwillingness to keep trying or adapting to adversity. [u]For the people who had trouble[/u] understanding my post and choose to insult me and my writing instead of thinking about it. All you had to do was talk to me or ask nicely. My points were about broad issues; the writing was not meant to be explicit. My word choices were perfectly suited to convey my meaning. I didn't realize that good diction would be frowned upon. Here's some bullet points for your convenience! Bungie will give in to a loud minority. I applaud the efforts of guardians who were willing to step up the challenges of Destiny instead of exploiting or avoiding them. The negative attitudes of people unwilling to adapt to the game will carry over into their lives. These same attitudes will continue to influence Destiny and the future of gaming. If we are going to choose to have developers change the entire game instead of adapting, Its worth thinking about and discussing so the next response can be proportional. Hope that helps, let me know if you'd actually like to discuss any of these points instead of throwing easy insults around.

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  • The squeaky wheel gets the grease, right?

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  • The 99% used auto rifles lol. No congrats there

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  • 작성자: Grzzldgamer 10/14/2014 4:07:22 PM
    Meh

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  • 작성자: Pope73 10/14/2014 4:15:41 PM
    Another comment i'm forced to refute. Whose to say your view is right or correct? Because you say it is? Why, because you want your exotic to be better than everyone else's because you worked for it? Sounds more like an elitist, self-serving and indulgent view of the whole situation, seeing as you and only a fraction of the gaming population benefit from having the weapon. Every weapon should have its pros and cons, no matter what. If your weapon is, by and large, destroying people, then something is wrong. I'm not just talking about the Crucible, i'm talking about doing damage and wrecking mobs and bosses. If they capitulated to the masses, whose to say there was not some merit to these complaints? What if they investigated and said holy sh*t, Mythoclast is doing way more damage or is far stronger than we anticipated or wanted, what then? In your view, who cares. You just want your epicz lootz brah. Who cares if no one else has Mythoclast, as long as you have it and it is superz awesomez. Grow up and stop with this "let them east cake" mentality. No one cares about your view, especially since you are in the minority and that minority, likely, also had individuals who complained that the weapon was not balanced. Unless you are insuitiating that these players are just as selfish and conceited as you are, then by all means (to end the discussion) both you and them are wrong.

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    • Oooooo! You know a lot of big words.

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    • ONLY little girl who dont have it cry about it. YOU CRY BABIES ARE LITTLE PINK PANTY GIRLS.

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    • I disagree, Destiny serves and protects the 1% of people who do not have time to play or beat vault of glass. This is why iron banner was broken and babied low level players.

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    • Just to make sure I'm reading you clearly, you'd prefer Destiny be an aristocracy or meritocracy, as it were? I'm not casting judgement, just asking for clarification.

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      • I'm sorry, but you're talking out your rear end... Do you really think it's fair fighting against a team in PVP where each player on one team has the Mythoclast gun verses a team with legendary or worse? Think about it for one moment... Perhaps you'll understand why

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        • It's still a dope gun what you crying about

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        • I couldn't agree more with you OP

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        • Stop crying, it's not the end of the world. I personally believe that there are more important things for Bungie to implement, and we (players) should focus on that- raid/nightfall Matchmaking and such. Crying about why your gun doesn't make X damage but Y, and still you can do all content in the game is pathetic.

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          • Oh the politics.

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          • It is a downward spiral. Because Bungie capitulates to the screamers, there will be continued screaming until we are fighting each other and our enemies with sticks and rocks. It has already begun... the cry against scout rifles is already here... and Bungie... ever in its quest to please every one will eventually nerf it, or attempt to re-balance something else to combat the perceived issue.

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          • I agree! Stop fixing shit before everyone else stops playing. Those habitual whiners will stop playing once they reach level 30 anyway! Then what destiny? Game will be too whack to keep playing

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          • "Bungie"Suit 1: Gentlemen, we got 20 calls about the Destiny Patch incident. And as you know, one call equals a billion people, which means 20 billion people were offended by this. Needless to say, something must be done.

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          • 작성자: Despondent Soul 10/14/2014 12:38:21 PM
            Cater to all players..."everyone can be a winner!" Is the attitude that many studios have adopted. While this may help sales, this does not promote player skill advancement. Everyone gets a giant easy button now in video games. Gone are the days wherein players actually had to use skill to overcome challenges. People want everything for nothing and too many (western civilization attitude) expect to be given all life has to offer without ever having to put in hard work. Games are modeled after aspects about and of life, so this constant nerfing and "dumbing-down" of content comes as no surprise. It's a disease of development minds that this continues to happen game after game, generation after generation. I'll go back to playing Quake and Counterstrike, thank you

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            • You do realize that player feedback is only part of the picture. They track EVERYTHING. Every bullet fired, how many people use auto rifles, how many bullets hit their mark, etc. The statistics tracking is a huge part of balancing the game. They wouldn't nerf something solely because people complain. This should not be news to anyone.

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              • You do realize this entire situation happened because people cheated on the final boss? Regardless of your bullshit excuse of tactics or bla bla bla, you knocked the boss off of a ledge or locked him down and bugged him... That availability is what killed the Vex Mytho and brought light to an entire situation that should have never occurred in the first place. The rest of the nerfs were/are necessary IMO. They didn't listen to a vocal minority -- A serious amount of players exploited the shit out of an event, like idiots, went to the Iron banner, used those exploited-ly earned weapons against everyone and then they got nerfed. WTF did you think was going to happen? A gun meant for maybe 100 players TOTAL, is now available to @ 500/600 people...Of course this was inevitable.

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                • Yeah the nerfs came from crying losers. The ones who don't want to do what it takes to get on top, they just do all they can to hold the winners back. Haters gonna hate, worlds full of em. No amount of nerfing will make those bad players good though.

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                  • [quote]Bungie has made it clear they will consistently capitulate to the loud crowd of people, however large or small they may actually be, who can't stomach the challenges and idiosyncrasies of a loot based game. To the 1% who worked their asses off before the youtube videos and pushing glitches, I applaud your efforts even if Bungie no longer will. Up to this point Destiny has been an amazing game. Clearly we as players have elected towards a egalitarian system where those who work to excel will get penalized, and those who can't will reap the benefits of crying as loud and constantly as possible. In the end its just a game, but I think this speaks loudly about the future of gaming and more generally the attitudes of players (which I have no doubt carries over into their everyday lives). I can only hope that this major change in trajectory will curtail the endless parades of complaints and rants. Take your victory humbly 99%, and I wish you all the best for your future attitude towards the hard truths and challenges of an unfair world. (Percents are not to scale guys. As most people have pointed out its more likely a loud minority)[/quote] Lol last few days there are 2+ vex mythoclasts in EVERY CRUCIBLE MATCH. It was no longer rare or fair. Atheon glitch did this.

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                    • Personally, I see the Mythoclast as a trophy like Chatterwhite or the raid class items. Lol Just bragging rights.

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                    • 작성자: Mishmashmoo 10/14/2014 11:31:27 AM
                      How is this a change in direction? The loot system has always rewarded participation rather than skill or achievement. It's the most random RNG loot system that's ever been implemented. Bungie should look to WoW for how to construct a loot system.

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                    • Bring it back

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                    • #WeAreTheDarkness

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                    • I am part of the minority who actually killed Atheon the legit way in hard I still would not count as earning it for the fact it is a random drop. Yes it was hard to come up with strategies but with the right team hard wasn't "hard". Of course the gun needed a nerf but I would have to say 34% is a little much. As of now it takes about 5 shots to kill something in the black garden level 28 heroic modifier on, this would be boosted to about 7 shots as the gun has an ammo problem as it is it will not be something to enjoy to use any more. The effects in pvp will probably bring no satisfying results either. All of this considered why should the one actually satisfying thing from the hard raid loose to the other guns like the regime in a straight up damage ratio in pve, shouldn't it be somewhat better why should it change in pve and pvp what is hard raid used for now if not to have a better than average gun. I think it is unfair in that way, I have no care about pvp thats what other guns are for it will be fine in a weeks time all the fighting about it will die down and it will be normal.

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