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작성자: SRT Suppressed 10/17/2014 6:54:47 PM
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Congratulations to the 99%

Bungie has made it clear they will consistently capitulate to the loud crowd of people, however large or small they may actually be, who can't stomach the challenges and idiosyncrasies of a loot based game. To the 1% who worked their asses off before the youtube videos and pushing glitches, I applaud your efforts even if Bungie no longer will. Up to this point Destiny has been an amazing game. Clearly we as players have elected towards an egalitarian system where those who work to excel will get penalized, and those who can't will reap the benefits of crying as loud and constantly as possible. In the end its just a game, but I think this speaks loudly about the future of gaming and more generally the attitudes of players (which I have no doubt carries over into their everyday lives). I can only hope that this change in trajectory will curtail the endless parades of complaints and rants. Take your victory humbly 99%, and I wish you all the best for your future attitude towards the hard truths and challenges of an unfair world. (Percents are not to scale guys. As most people have pointed out its more likely a loud minority) [u]In retrospect[/u] I was pretty salty when I wrote this. Must have been wiping my tears away with the dictionary. Yes, I should have expected this. I guess i'm a purist and a dreamer who preferred the game unadulterated. Hoped it would stay unique; i'm sure it might in some ways. Oh well. That's not the point. I'd encourage people to bring issues to forum in a different light. Let's change our tone so that when these issues arise in the future we might get a proportional response. If Bungie's listening to us, let's start giving them something worth listening to. [u]Addendums[/u] As to the 1%: there is [b]nothing[/b] elitist about determination to overcome a challenge. It's simply a [b]choice[/b] you make. I firmly believe everyone could have persevered if they chose to. I'm just applauding the people who made that choice and questioning whether we as a community feel our standard reaction should be penalizing them due to an overwhelmingly negative responses and unwillingness to keep trying or adapting to adversity. [u]For the people who had trouble[/u] understanding my post and choose to insult me and my writing instead of thinking about it. All you had to do was talk to me or ask nicely. My points were about broad issues; the writing was not meant to be explicit. My word choices were perfectly suited to convey my meaning. I didn't realize that good diction would be frowned upon. Here's some bullet points for your convenience! Bungie will give in to a loud minority. I applaud the efforts of guardians who were willing to step up the challenges of Destiny instead of exploiting or avoiding them. The negative attitudes of people unwilling to adapt to the game will carry over into their lives. These same attitudes will continue to influence Destiny and the future of gaming. If we are going to choose to have developers change the entire game instead of adapting, Its worth thinking about and discussing so the next response can be proportional. Hope that helps, let me know if you'd actually like to discuss any of these points instead of throwing easy insults around.

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  • What's the big deal? Every MMO and FPS game I've ever played has done balance patches. Developers put the game out, they give it a month or two to see how people are playing, give them time to find unanticipated builds/loadouts and then they go in and increase the power of things that are underperforming and reduce the effectiveness of things that ended up being stronger than anticipated. Then they sit back for a couple weeks after the patch and see if things are in a better place. If they went too far or not far enough with a buff or nerf, they go in and tweak it. It'll likely be an iterative process for the next 3 or 4 months until they get all of the guns and class abilities to a place that feels right. After that balance changes will probably be quite a bit less frequent.

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    • 작성자: Capiton Render 10/14/2014 5:20:39 PM
      [quote] and idiosyncrasies of a loot based game[/quote] Stop using words youdont understand, k thanks by

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      • Use smaller words, you're talking to dummies.

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      • Hmm... anyone else see a parallelism between this and life in America?

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      • This thread needs more tears...

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      • ah ya id say more people were saying not to nurf the vex then there were saying to nurf it or thats just what ive seen from most of the nurf or dont nurf vex threads. But in all seriousness bungie plays the game to and im sure they saw the fact the vex was just to powerful and was downright close to impossible to beat in a gun fight. With the tweak to AR's if the vex wasnt nurfed at the same time it would have been literaly a heavy as a primary and next to impossible to beat. And again the majority of people who have the vex didnt work for it they joined a save and pushed atheon off the side i mean really id say there is an extreamly extreamly low amount of people that even got the vex legit and i bet they care more about people cheesing atheon then bungie nurfing the vex.

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      • Troll post from Troll profile is fail.

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      • The gun was too powerful. With a 34% nerf, the gun still will do the same/similar damage as a Suros Regime, which even post-nerf is still bad ass. Run the numbers. People will still rip shit up with this gun. But now they can also rip shit up with scout rifles, and that makes me happy! This community will cry no matter what. Such a shame. No more ezmode and you leets (lol 1% my ass) blame the crybabies, and YOU are the ones crying. Get over yourself.

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      • The mythoclast still melts in PVP so I'm not sure what people are crying about.

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        • I support this message until ESO comes out lol

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          • It's obvious that every game caters to the casual crowd these days, it's all about making the most money possible. This is why there are very few challenging and skill based games out there any more. Dark souls is a great example of a hard skill based game, and even the second dark souls started to make it's game easier to draw in more players. However, with taht said, I think the changes to the vex were sorely needed. It previously outperformed LMG's, and no primary weapon should have that ability. Even with the 34% reduction it still has the highest body and headshot multiplayer for auto rifles, and has twice the fire rate of the suros. It's still by far the best Primary weapon, even with the 34% reduciton, that just goes to show you how OP it truely was. The nerfs to auto rifles and shotungs were much needed as well. The PVP will be greater for these changes, and I applaud them for making them. If you were one of the few who got the Vex early, then congrats you got to be a GOD in pvp for a few weeks. But now, it's toned down to where it should be.

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            • I commend you sir, hard work and effort against challenges should be rewarded. It's like kids in school now get ribbons in races just for being there... Wtf? Sorry but losing is a part of life, you learn how to improve unless your rewarded anyways which is idiotic. -blam!-ing retarded how society is gone. Good job for showing up, you win. Screw the people who try, they're just elitists. Irony

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            • It Halo 2 Again , it the 1% that complain and it the 99% of us that are like wtf , But is it not one the greatest thing in the world we, and all of use WORK are As* off to get the gear and weapons and , now in a month there like. putting the finger up it . I going enjoy it roll eyes . So now from this point on there going be no reason to play this game since , if you work your ass off to get stuff , there like dildo it . Thank You , Bungie For showing your true self , man i really thought you guys were better then , finger ass the players.

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              • oh, boo -blam!-ing who...

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              • Do you think its a random number they chose for the vex? NO the 34 % was made to deliberately be a little better than the suros so that people can COMPETE with the weapon..after this patch its the best primary on the game.. if that doesnt tell you something your a -blam!-ing retard

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              • If you are referring to the latest hotfix I actually really like the new update. Most of the matches I played majority of the players used Suros Regime or Vex Mythoclast (vex less common.) I've tried out suros regime and it made things WAY to easy. It felt like a full auto scout rifle. I Actually "sniped" a player once with it from half way across the map and killed the SNIPER before he could get a shot off. That weapon was just way to precise and powerful. It was an AUTO RIFLE it shouldn't be able to out dps/range a scout rifle! Also about Vex, That weapon just seemed like it would be the "best weapon in the game" before the patch. Far too much damage and fire rate. I might get mvp often inspite the enemy team having 2 or 3 of them, but I still see it being a serious balance issue. if there is one weapon that everyone is inclined to use simply because it was the "best" then that takes a lot of fun out of the game. This patch helped BALANCE the issues. It did not break anything it did not ruin the game, it only makes those who exploited those weapons mad. Overall we should find the crucible more interesting and fun with this patch. just give it some time, AND USE SOMETHING YOU ARE GOOD WITH!

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              • boarderlands wont be on oxbox one!!! why???

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                • You, and everyone else, shut up.

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                • I heard that auto-rifles got nerfed....can someone with experience on this explain? I'm hesitant about doing PvP from here on in since I require auto-rifles to get the job done.

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                  • You are delusional to think that OP guns won't get nerfed. Now you can go back and earn your PvE and PvP victories using skill not being carried out by OP gear because guess what, recent rifle nerfes didn't affect my k/d ratio at all. Not saying K/D ratio is important but it serves as a reference frame.

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                    • Ever since the beginning of this game all they have done is nerf the shit out of anything good......and then give handouts to those who play casually. [b] Cause[/b]: People Crying......."Its too hard for me to get Vanguard Marks" [b] Effect[/b]: Queens Bounties.....oh well here is a BP and a Helmet for doing little to nothing [b] Cause[/b]: People Crying......"I'm getting F'd up in the Crucible because every weapon but the one I use is OP" [b]Effect[/b]: Best Weapon in the game NERFED............a handful of other weapons NERFED Regardless of what you call it, FPS.....MMO.....Hybrid......its a game based on loot, that you have to work for. I don't hear anyone crying about the Exotics that they randomly got in the crucible......that they probably use the s**t out of. Now raid weapons will be worthless.....well then whats the point of doing the raid? To get to 30? Well who gives a s**t because how much advantage does that one level give you in both crucible.....or PvE....minimal. Might as well stay 29 in Legendary armor and f people up in the crucible. - There is no advantage to working hard in this game it seems..... - Nerfing the gun solves nothing if you can push Aethon over the ledge....... - Nerfing THE BEST gun in the game makes no sense; its The BEST gun in the game, its suppose to be OP; people just cry because they don't have one and may never get it; hence the BEST gun in the game becomes a Suros, which everyone can buy......tell me that's not true so I can call you a liar to your face........ - If Bungie keeps giving into the majority, and sadly the majority are those who troll the crucible all day, have no intention of doing the raid....but will cry because raid gear is too OP for them........ Sadly this game may not last to the mark of 10 years if Bungie keeps giving and then taking away based on some crybaby demographic.

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                      • They just want to have balanced gameplay experience, that's all. I don't think that sucks. This is why they nerf and buff things in WoW too. It's a bit balancing act that can sometimes go sideways.

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                      • So you mad they nerfed autos or that you can't get any loot? Lmao

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                      • What in the Hell are you smoking buddy? While it's unanimous that Bungie bungled the launch of this game, all their patches thus far have been good - fixing exploits and balancing out the game better. Are you just butthurt that you can't use the n00b cannon to wreck face anymore? Or that, godforbid, no more easymode long range AR kills? "Works your asses off" hahahahahahahahahaha yeah that's a good one. You mean people with no lives who grinded endlessly under a terrible itemization system (that's still awful) and maybe got lucky? Because that's what a huge part of this game is so far, luck - even moreso than Diablo 3 or Borderlands 2 since those games at least shower you in drops. There is no major work or effort in this game, not yet anyway. Even the vault is a joke once you get the hang of it. Hard Mode is challenging without being able to revive but then that's why you should be geared before doing it and not abusing exploits like so many have been doing (speaking of ascendant materials should honestly be removed from the possible loot). Just another rant from a seemingly spoiled entitlement brat.

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                      • So lets be crybabies about the crybabies (sarcastic thumbs up) good job

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                      • The squeaky wheel gets the grease, right?

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