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10/1/2014 5:44:00 AM
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It is really stupid for bungie to not allow matchmaking for the weekly strike and raid

I do not see why a group of strangers cannot work well to beat these so called extremely difficult mission. This system is simply making people go away from destiny.
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  • 작성자: StardustWaltz 10/2/2014 9:03:41 AM
    RAID absolutely not, you need a mic for that and no excuses. Partying with people who don't have one is a waste of their time and mine or anyones. Nightfall has no reason for not having matchmaking for it.

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    • Seriously people the raid isn't as hard as your making out. Ive completed it 3 times and i have no mic, once everyone figures out what they are doing its common sense. And if there was matchmaking people would be able to figure out how to do it easier. Why do they just assume we cannot do it with matchmaking and not let us show them we can. Ive put together groups off this forum in order to complete the raid and its worked every-time without communication. How about a system whereby if you have completed it once all the way through you unlock matchmaking for the raid as long as you are atleast level 27, that way everyone on matchmaking will know how to do the raid. And wont be too weak to have to be carried.

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    • Tell me about it. They should introduce this logic into sports matches. You know, go around the streets pick up random people, then put them up against the top team in the sport. They're bound to win because they've never trained or played or worked or communicated with each other before.

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    • I have completed the raid multiple times. And can easily see why their is no match making in this. If one team mate dose not communicate or do his part towards the objective. Your not even going to get past the first boss or even get in the vault.

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      • 작성자: tangentbishop 10/2/2014 9:08:41 AM
        If you haven't played the raid then you won't understand this decision. You need a mic to coordinate and you need people who at at-level and gear appropriate. I would be pulling hair out if I was relying on a bunch of lvl 25 players who figure this is just another strike and then have to try to explain the fights and coordinate during the fight when half my team is mute. It can be hard enough with a group of well prepared people, it would be a nightmare without. In closing, this is how it will be for the more hardcore content. You have already figured out the forums, use it to your advantage and pick up a team here

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        • I agree and hope bungie is going to implement it in the future months. My guess is that they are allowing players to become comfortable with current content then they will allow PUGs

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          • Honestly if they added matchmaking to the weekly heroic strike that'd be fine, if they added it to the Nightfall I'd say get rid of the buff it gives it's meant to make you feel unique and you know be a bonus to your efforts even if you don't get anything from the nightfall itself, as for raids with my prior experience in raiding I wouldn't want to see that, the likelihood of getting an actually knowledgeable set of randoms is almost like one in a million more than likely you'll have a bunch of blabbering idiots who will get offended when you tell them how to correct a mistake even when you're trying to be polite (seriously sometimes its a real effort to try with a lot of people). It's not hard to send people a message every now and then to try to get grouped up, I am far from the most sociable person but if I want to get shit done I'll step outside my comfort zone to find people to get shit done.(This is the problem with most Destiny players without in-game chat options people seem to be too afraid to just send messages and ask.) Anyway this is all just my opinion so love it or hate. I just wanted to throw in my take on this.

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          • 작성자: fuzzygoat 10/2/2014 9:11:57 AM
            Why does it matter if raids have matchmaking, it does not mean you have to use it, if you have the right number of friends you can still create and join a custom fire-team. I really can't see all the fuss, if the thinking is that raids will be difficult with a matched group then so be it, its not rocket science to think, this will be easier with my mates rather than a random PUG. The point is that for those that don't have any other option whats the harm? I think everyone will be surprised just how many PUGs actually make it through VoG, there are a hell of a lot of good players out there that don't have any friends playing destiny.

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            • Weekly and nightfall strike needs matchmaking. It's just a strike and the nightfall is even in the strike playlist yet doesn't allow matchmaking. Strange. Raid wouldn't be a bad thing as every time you do it you get more practice. I've only tried it once because gettin 6 people all on at the same time is a challenge. I agree you need strong communication ect but I would prefer matchmaking to get the practice in. You can't exactly practice on your own lol. Or better yet an easy mode for raid with matchmaking. Crap rewards but plenty of practice.

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              • Having read the comments here, I still favour expanding the MM. However, as an interim fix, wouldn't some established 'meeting places' in the tower remove the need to message/invite everyone you meet? If a player is lurking under the sign saying 'Meet here for strikes', you'd be able to fire an invite without annoying...everyone.

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                • Raids require people who know what they're doing and know how to handle the relics etc. with matchmaking good experienced players will be brought down by Trolls trying to ruin their game, new raiders who have no idea what to do, plain bad players, uncooperative players, and so on, no matchmaking on raids is a smart idea. As for weekly I think that should have matchmaking

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                  • Quite honestly , no. Do you really want to get matched up with ransoms that might not be equipped then you have to carry them through a raid or weekly strike?

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                    • Even though it works against me as only 2 of my friends play Destiny, I don't think the raid should have matchmaking. The weekly's on the other hand, I see no reason why they shouldn't, and I think that would be a good change to implement.

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                    • weeky strike should have it, raid should never have it

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                    • The whole point of it is that you come to the forums and find groups thus meeting multiple new people and then hopfully continue to do more content with said people making you a proper team.

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                      • It would definitely be difficult in a full group of randoms if no one had a mic, but if they had mics then I wouldn't see a problem with it at all.. Having no matchmaking definitely closes off the raid for the majority of players and would be useful to have for when you only need like 1 more person in the group. Last night we had to use destinylfg.com to find the last member.

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                      • yup

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                      • Be social, make friends. I love that there's no MM for those. It adds another layer of difficulty, which increases the rewarding experience of completing those missions.

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                        • I joined randoms in a raid, it's the only way I can complete the raids (no different than matchmaking). Bungie expects me to have six, diehard destiny friends who all have the same schedule as me? The parts of the raid I did get a chance to play (with completely random strangers) were by far the best parts of the game in my opinion. Sadly, I can never play them unless I have three hours to kill and am able to find 5 friends/randoms who also have 3+ hours to kill. ... Thanks Bungie.... Thanks...

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                          • I don't agree because both need constant communication between players and you cant be sure that someone you find in matchmaking will be able to communicate

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                            • Make a recruitment Post +Objective/Goal. then start adding PSN's im PS3 btw. people also have to state their system of Playage for recruitment purposes. ANYways. checking forums was how i found a post recruiting for VoG, i wanted in, posted my PSN and such. they added me and we ran it, beat it, BOOSH! who says u cant hook up with total strangers over the internet. give random strangers a chance, add people. surely u would want people to add you for runs in recruiting. another note, just send friend requests or Fireteam Invites to random people of your level in tower that u wanna run Nightfall, raids, strikes with. be SURE to include a Message, asking if they wanna help do runs and what ur motive is. i did a weekly this morning with 2 random strangers, someone needed help running theirs of the week, i got a random invite, i joined along with another stranger, (it was a Girl Gamer) was surprised. yes we had mics. its how i knew. helped them complete it. we went our separate ways afterwards. Bungie Forums, and Gamefaqs Forums, can be used for recruitment purposes too.

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                              • I think they want the community to come together and friend up. and to an extent it is working. though it may be a little painful for some people.

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                              • You are correct. Players have been complaining. Players have been leaving. The matchmaker debate is a bitch. The replies are usually " randoms can't do it " " randoms will quit". Yet you see posts here in the forums for randoms to join parties. So I call shenanigans! I can relate to your post. I had no friends on my PSN.( I'm going back a year. ) I started playing FF14 ARR. They have a in game friend list. I have 50, 60 friends on that list. I met them all in the game. How? By communicating! Text chat, that's all we had. Eight of my good friends in the game gave me their PSN IDs. Now I come to Destiny. No communication in the game. 4 emotes. The voice chat in parties, using my system chat. That sucks. There is no way to LFG in the game! That's ridiculous. Dumb. Lame. I heard great things about the Halo series. I never did get to play any of them. Bungie made a boo-boo with this game. I hope they fix it.

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                              • 작성자: ManlyPumpkin 10/2/2014 3:29:35 AM
                                Almost all mmos that have raids or strikes ( dungeons) have a party finder. Yeah the first few weeks it sucks but then everyone figures it out. Then dungeons are just im bored lets go pew pew stuff!!! Yay I got gear lets go raid. Again raiding sucks at first. Especially 25 people in a raid...but then eventually people figure it out and again. Rinse and repeat I don't see how a matchmaking system is any differnt. Say someone quits, lags out, game consoles get shot by angry wife. Then you wait and re join a que and someone comes in.

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                              • Weekly Heroic playlists etc should have MM. But I can see why Raid doesn't.

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                              • If you've done the raid. You know it requires teamwork, skill and a certain level of friendship with the other players

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