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9/25/2014 6:51:15 PM
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Bungie Speaks! Analysis of the Dev's Notes
So you couldn't shut up about Bungie being silent could you?
Well guess what? The gag has come off and you're welcome for the link.
Here's my reaction to what they have to say. Read their words for yourself above.
Loot.
He Who Shall Not Be Named:
Apparently there was a miscommunication between Bungie and the players about how the Cryptarch works.
Namely players expecting the color of the engram to identify with 100% accuracy what the item is while the Cryptarch goes "Oh! Loot! I have no idea what I'm going to give you so lets roll the dice."
"Expect Changes soon." Not sure if this means they will make the "Random Loot Table" of the tooltip more visible or adjust the drop rate to skew more in line to drop the color of item to the color of engram. Wording is too vague and makes me think it could go ether way.
Destiny: The Cave
Apparantly while the Cave was an interesting social experiment. The Devs did NOT intend for the cave to work as it did. While they praise the organization of those who gathered outside of them, they wanted this organization to be found in the provided activities OTHER then standing outside a cave and shooting into it.
However they clearly state that while incoming change to remove this now clearly defined exploit from play. They will and are working to increase reward rate from activities. You will soon be rewarded appropriately for the effort you put into PvE.
Reward Celebration
Apparently people have not been paying close enough attention to their screens to notice when rewards are being handed out.
Bungie believes they are at fault for this and expect changes to create a big fanfare when rewards are given out.
Social
Voice Communication
Apparently the vast vocal "majority" of you can't tell the difference between Honesty and Abuse. Bungie agrees and explains that the reason they have not YET added voice communications is because those vast numbers of vocal users are highly abusive and Bungie does not want their players to suffer from being verbally abused citing "Even our own programs from Halo did not do enough to protect players."
Somebody ruined a good thing for the rest of us.
Good news on the other hand though. Bungie HAS been at work on the Voice Communication aspect of Destiny which will allow you to more easily shut out those abusive griefers and still enjoy Voice Communication. Expect this feature to be implemented before the end of the year.
Activites
Strikes
They've tracked down an issue in the formula in strikes that was unintended. Apparently there was a bug that increased incoming damage and decreased outgoing damage. The result was a hard grind that was not what Bungie wanted and they will adjust this for a better flow to the Strikes.
Unfortunately (Or Fortunately depending on which way you swing) this was intended for Raids. Sorry guys. The challenge level of that is going nowhere.
Balance
They admit there is some issue here and prepare to rejoice... or weep.
Exotics:
Exotic weapons are intended to clean house. No exceptions.
Those such as Thorn and Bad JuJu which were deemed "Unusable" they say "Don't throw those away. We hear you and expect things to change for the better."
Auto Rifles:
They feel that Auto Rifles are starting to become to effective at long ranges out-preforming Pulse Rifles and Scout Rifles.
Expect Auto Rifles to suffer from a sudden change in stability to throw off performance past mid-range with/or damage adjustment. However Auto Rifles are supposed to reign supreme at close to mid range so working as intended there.
Scout Rifles:
Scout Rifles are supposed to be unwieldy at anything close then midrange. Expect a damage buff to make Scout Rifles the Sniper Rifle's little brother. Make your shots count.
Shotguns:
To my great relief and I expect to see much hate over this... the incredible damage of shotguns is working as intended and is here to stay.
However they have heard and agreed, especially when intentionally upgraded this way, that the range on some of these Shotguns is unreal. Expect Shotguns to suffer range problems in the future.
Some of these issues bring new light to what has been going on the game and answer a few questions. Clearly Bungie has not been idly sitting around with their thumbs up their asses as a great number of you believe. They have been quietly playing the game and reading feedback form the forums.
They've now broken the silence after two weeks of data gathering and I for one am both please about some things, and surprised about others, but most of all, satisfied that my patience has been rewarded and we're a little wiser about the game.
Bungie has spoken! See you next time.
-Adhock
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4 답변They're really working on ways to reward us for PvE? Like giving us a reason to do tiger strikes?
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6 답변작성자: Uriyaal 9/27/2014 9:57:16 AMMy understanding was from reading the engrams descriptions, White only has white checked off, Green has green white and blue checked off, blue has green blue and purple checked off and purple has just purple checked off. So ya i see why Tons of people are pissed off about the loot system. Anyone would have read the engrams descriptions and thought thats the color/s i can get, they get a purple engram with only purple checked off and get a green item? somethings wrong..
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I hope soon or later they will start adding something more intentional, like a story. Or better replayable events worth doing. The Queen's Wrath was a let down for sure. I'll point out that some of the Patrol Missions aren't worth doing so they should worth on fixing them. Every single one of them besides the Target ones are worthwhile, especially on Earth because one gives you 25+ reputation each completed. And the bonuses alongside it is meant to give you is no longer present from the Beta, like the spinmetal you were meant to get. (Honestly, I do not see why they removed that portion of the Patrol Mission reward.)
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1 답변"Legendary Engram items that exist in your inventory will be demoted to Rare quality when the patch goes live, so decode them while you can. But let’s be honest--even if you don’t, we all know they were blues already..." To soon bungie...to soon...
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8 답변This is really good news. I was cave farmer but it looks like they are fixing the bad things with the game.. Strikes will actually be rewarding. The Cryptarch seems like he will be less RNG focuses even after RNG loot. A double RNG roll is terrible for gear. Bad JuJu is pretty terrible atm but I am glad I didn't destroy it. I found that scout rifles did kind of just suck. Shotguns were really annoying with about 50 people running with them. Auto rifles are also OP. Glad they are addressing the changes that made me dislike some parts of MP. Maybe they can boost loot for good players? Wishful thinking but we are in the right direction.
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2 답변I hope the range penalty for these shotguns isn't for every shotgun, just those you can upgrade to riddicilous ranges. Atm they are rather lacking in PVE. And could actualy use a buff in that area.
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Good they need to speak more to their community and stop being so hush hush about things. Glad they are also realizing they screwed up. Yet I still see nothing about the crucible loot fix. Rumble, the 1st 3 player get randomized loot. Team based games: The team that won get randomized loot and the losers get nothing but cruicble marks. That is how I think it should be. Therefore winning and having fun becomes priority and that satisfying feeling of being rewarded for winning.
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6 답변- It should be very hard to get the engrams and materials required to upgrade top tier armour and weapons, but it's a pity Bungie realised it too late and are upsetting some people. - Weapon changes are spot on imho. - Chat is badly needed, default opt out is the right way I think. - Badly need an overhauled loot reward system, I played for 6 hours today and I actually got 10 green engrams in a row, ended up with a few more and thankfully a couple of blues in the end (even though I need purple as I'm level 28). Where is the option to skip cutscenes or change/turn off music volume?
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I was thinking about the chance of get a legendary engram and earn a legendary item when figured out how the drop chance is low, but nothing compared with the drop chance plus the engram chance of earning the desired item. If you read on some posts, you'll notice the chance of at least 1% of purple engram dropping, the same for earning a legendary item from this engram, so, let's calculate the chance of earning a legendary item: 0,01 (1%) * 0,01 (1%) = 0,0001 (0,01%) or 1 in 10.000 drops. It's not saying the earned item is the desired item, so, you'll need to divide it with all the slot type of equipment and then divide again with all the legendary items inside that slot type. 0,0001 / 7 Slot Types / 30 (random number of legendary items of that type) = 0,000000476 (0,0000476%) or 1 in 47.600.000 millions. It's a chance, even if you kill 47.600.000 monsters, your chance of drop one purple engram still attached with the probability of never earning the desired item. Well, I don't want complain about it, just want show for you how hard is your chance of earn the desired item is at least a real lottery.
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[quote]"Expect Changes soon." Not sure if this means they will make the "Random Loot Table" of the tooltip more visible or adjust the drop rate to skew more in line to drop the color of item to the color of engram. Wording is too vague and makes me think it could go ether way.[/quote] I took this to mean that they see the issue as "you see purple, you think you should get purple", and that they're going to fix it by no longer making us see purple unless it actually decodes as purple. Maybe I'm just being cynical. I wouldn't surprised to see "engram" replaced with "loot grab-bag" in the next patch or two.
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5 답변What shocks me is how Bungie didn't see all of this. [u]They had an Alpha and a Beta ffs.[/u] Anyway, at least it's getting fixed. But still Bungie shouldn't just say, "Ok, here's the game, we'll fix it later and that'll be $60 bucks!"
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24 답변The only thing I have to say about your post that is stupid, "shotgun range is unreal" hahaha. Do people that play video games ever go out shooting or hunting with shotguns? They have a great range. And you can increase range with the type of slug you use. Hahaha
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4 답변작성자: MrLeprechaun 9/26/2014 6:04:19 PMMy only qualm is the shotguns. Granted they are annoying in pvp(although I havent played it that much). From a reality perspective they already have a short(comparatively speaking) range. You already have to almost be face to face for them to be effective. I say leave them alone personally. Also the scout and auto rifles. They should be closely if not evenly matched in damage and impact with the simple difference of range and recoil(the scout rifle being better in those aspects) plain and simple. Just my opinion
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2 답변I'll be so pissed if the Nerf the auto rifles. I'm getting ticked off with these changes and not many gear to choose from the higher the level you are. Bungie kinda -blam!-ed up, don't get me wrong love the game and co cept but they could of done a lot better, I know of MMOs on PC that don't cost 500 million and they're older then ten years. Bungie cmon. I also think the lvl should go higher then 30
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only thing this game really did right was how hard the strikes and stuff were. nerfing them and making them easier is going to take most of the fun out of doing them. want to make them feel like less of a grind? make them even harder and give out better rewards.
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Very good read so thanks for posting. I did receive a purple engram (or whatever the be called yesterday as a reward) and when i went to decrypt it i received a blue (rare) weapon. Sorry only mention this as the above mentioned exotics and i was wondering why it was a got a blue weapon out of a purple. All in all i love this game and could care less about the whiny brats that do not like this game.
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Good or bad news, however you perceive it, I appreciate the response. All I wanted was an update that said someone was noticing player feedback and setting a plan in motion. Even better that they have actually implemented some changes already, in the future a timely update as to we are looking into it, or working as intended might help to calm a few of the more excitable players. Good job Bungie, but look into a forum correspondent it would be nice to hear from someone from time to time in between patches and updates. Thanks for making the game better, heres to future improvements.
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4 답변How about the crazy Fusion Rifles that can one hit from 50 yards. Come on, 5+ round clips of one hit kills. It's pathetic
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I think it's also worth mentioning what they said about engram drops. I know a lot of people misunderstood their statement to mean that there will be less engrams overall or less engrams every death. The patch notes actually say that you get less drops for a short amount of time after your entire fire team dies. If anything loot drops have gone up for me, although that may just be luck of the draw on my part.
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1 답변The op doesn't have enough to warrant it's own thread. It's the same shit I already read. No need to thank you for the link when it's on the front page. Derp.
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6 답변작성자: LordOfPit 9/26/2014 3:59:48 PMIn regards to the random l00t and Cave fiascos, Bungie either didn't do enough research into F2PMMO's or thought for some reason that the folks who bought Destiny will not behave like F2PMMO communities behave. Either way, Bungie's response to the l00t/Cave issues shows they're willing to learn from their mistakes. In the coming weeks however we will learn what Bungie is truly made of... Will Bungie change their l00t system to be more aligned with how players perform or allow improved material drop-rates and offer more vendors with more varied stuff to buy.... Or will Bungie worsen the deal by starting to use microtransactions to sell us virtual keys that would open l00t chests that drop off every lowly Dreg in the hope that we'll buy hundreds of keys (only $1.25 per key!) hoping to get that (0.001% chance) awesome exotic? Yes folks, things could get worse if Bungie learns from companies like Perfect World Entertainment, and it could happen, but hopefully it won't. Either way, I'm excited and hopeful for Destiny to change, adapt and grow. I'm hoping for more emphasis on classes/skills rather than weapons/gear and I can't wait to see what other subclasses we'll get or how the story will grow.
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2 답변What is your deal man? Are you completely -blam!-ing mental or something? You posted this crap all over people's threads all day going on and on about how excited you were that Bungie was finally acknowledging some of the minor issues plaguing there game. You remind me of the children from Beyond Thunderdome who think Mel Gibson is a god. Pull your shit together.
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1 답변I might be behind, but have these gone live yet? Mainly the weapon balancing? I played a couple pvp matches earlier and still saw absurd range with shotguns.
