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9/23/2013 11:07:40 PM
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Do people who do not vote have the right to bitch
about the shape of the government?
I have a friend who has never voted in his life. Yet he spends nearly every conversation complaining about the government. Does he have the right to do so?
(I don't mean the legal right. Everyone has that. I mean the moral right to complain about something he refuses to have a hand in)
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2 답변Yes, because primarily, I'm assuming they aren't voting because they know whoever they're going to get is shit. I know that's why I haven't voted.
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Let me say this, based on what you are saying is Hawaiians have no right to complain about the government. The state has the worst voter turnout of any state. Why? It's not because they are an island away from the mainland. It's because of the time change when they vote the election literally has already been decided. So why vote? They have no right to complain because of a extremely flawed voting system? This just comes across as voters feeling superior to other citizens for simply filling in a paper ballot. I vote but I am absolutely fine that nonvoters complain since they still have to pay the same taxes, follow the same laws, and are not affected differently. If that changes then we'll see lol.
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No. Unless they aren't old enough then I say we can let that slide. But if you have the chance to at least make a difference and you don't, then you seriously should not complain. I've never voted, so i don't give a rats butt of what happens around me to be honest.
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Damn right he does. Voting is not the single point-of-access when it comes to politics. Whether or not he participates in demonstrations, riots, pickets or whatever is his business, but when it comes to people who feel actively disenfranchised or who feel disgust towards the system - of course they will complain. As I stand, I can't see myself voting in the future - unless it is in an attempt to stop another party gaining power - simply because I do not think the system is democratic or worth contributing to in an electoral way.
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작성자: A Kinky Milkman 9/24/2013 4:39:19 PM-Person who consciously decides to not vote here- So yeah, I don't see myself voting in the near future. I am disgusted (like many Americans) with politics in the government, and I do occasionally contact my senators/representatives/governor however I can. I feel like this is much more effective then the direct consequence of one vote, and since I am both a Soldier and a Volunteer Firefighter, I feel like they are much more willing to listen to me than the average person. I feel as though my vote doesn't actually matter, and before I get bitten for that - I am a Libertarian Socialist. My platform is so obscure in American Politics that there is literally no chance for a person of a similar political platform to be elected in this country. If I voted for someone with that platform, my vote would be wasted, as the electoral college (to my understanding) would make my vote ineffective if my district votes either D or R - which they will likely vote D anyways. I dislike the approach of voting D because, although Democrats are closer to me ideologically, I don't like the idea of voting for a candidate I find mediocre for the sake of not having someone who is even more mediocre. It doesn't feel truly democratic to myself, and so I try to find alternative ways that I may influence the political structure of the US. /small rant
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1 답변To those saying that one vote doesn't matter, it can. Especially those of you in swing states. Case in point, in the 2000 election between Bush and Gore, everything came down to 800 votes in Florida. 800. EIGHT HUNDRED. Think about that. That isn't even one section at your local stadium. That very easily could have come down to a single vote. By our system, winner takes all. So, if 801 people had decided that voting for Gore had mattered, then modern American history would be VERY different.
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12 답변Not everybody has the legal right to vote. In fact if I remember correctly 30% of US citizens don't have the right to vote... That number is probably off a good bit.
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2 답변Sure he has the right. You also have the right to call him a hypocrite and make sure you spit to the side for a good measure of shaming and disgust.
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Yeah. The argument that they don't assumes that they are only complaining about the outcome of the [i]election[/i]. If someone's complaining about corruption, or believes that corruption is making voting meaningless (two parties with the same agenda), then their arguments don't hinge at all on whether or not they vote.
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I don't vote because it is pointless as I tend to be in the middle of the political spectrum, where no one gets elected because our country is full of close minded extremists. I in general stay away from politics because that makes me happier.
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21 답변Absolutely. Natural rights and freedoms don't get a vote, and if they're being infringed upon they have every right to complain.
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1 답변There are other ways besides voting to change the government. If you're not old enough to vote, or you can't vote for another reason, the government still affects you.
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1 답변Ascribing value to something that has effectively none. He has probably affected the system more by discussing matters openly than he ever could have by just casting one vote.
