I'm not especially particular, but some of my favorites have been Half Life, Dishonored, and Bioshock franchises.

Have you played prey or Dead Space?

He did ask for “new(ish)” games specifically, which is why I didn’t recommend Prey. Great game, but it’s almost a decade old at this point. On its 8th year, I think?

It's that old already....I'm slipping.... But I think it's mainly because I just don't buy any new games anymore... So my frame of reference is out of whack as I usually buy used stuff and I never buy anything unless it's physical copies... if I can help it

Which is still a bad habit you should try to shake because the game industry is great right now on a whole when you're not tying yourself down with nostalgia and attachment to old franchises/companies you used to know, but to each their own.

I guess but I can't think of any game that I've seen or heard of lately that is interesting I mean outside of palworld I play a lot of palworld.... And death stranding...

The best way to find them is to check the new page of the store every week. Don't go in looking for anything in particular, just hop in and see what's there, and look through all of them until you start recognizing games again. I do this for Switch and Xbox every week (when I remember), and I can often find something interesting! Even if you don't buy anything immediately, wishlisting anything that looks neat will help you come back later. Then of course, whenever a sale comes around, I try to look at that, too. Will sometimes stumble across something that slipped my radar. If you're on social media stuff like Twitter, that's a good place to learn about upcoming games, too. Though, having those kinds of accounts comes with its own bag of worms. I stopped using Twitter in spite of all the fun games & comics I was learning about, because the rest of the stuff that was getting thrown my way was a little bleh. Politics, depressing news stories, that sort of thing. Bleh.

I don't even own a computer I don't use social media I rarely use any online shops.... A buddy of mine constantly makes the joke that I'm a ledite And I'm not even sure what that's supposed to even mean outside of I'm like allergic to technology or something

Well, if you don't use any online shops, then of course you think gaming is dead. The only games that get put on physical store shelves are (mostly) the ones made by the big companies who can afford it, and even then they usually only stick out their biggest sellers. But those big sellers are all watered down for mass market appeal. There are a few diamonds in the rough, but if that's all you're seeing, then you're not seeing the rest of the diamond mine that's right behind you. Not using social media, fair enough, but you should open your mind to digital storefronts, at least as far as video games are concerned. By cutting it off, you're also cutting yourself off to literally 90% of the game industry.

Ya try but if I'm going to buy something I need to be able to keep it somewhere and you can't do that with digital everything is tied up in some kind of license and I'm not too keen on the idea that if I buy something somebody can flip a switch and suddenly it's not mine anymore... Plus without a computer 90% of games made by Indy I can't even play anyway so I'm stuck using the digital shops off the consoles the licenses the slack of ownership thus not going to waste my money It's a self feeding loop of misery and I know this

There are thousands of indie games on consoles. There are a lot that are PC exclusive, that's true, but the difference isn't as big as you think. Most indie devs try to get their games on consoles as well, because a wider market means more sales, so while you'll miss out on some good games, like Quantum Protocol, you can still play the majority of them. Most of the time, it's just a matter of delayed release. They drop on PC first, and then come to console later. And you're very pessimistic about a situation that almost never happens, and when a game does get pulled from the market like that, 99% of the time it's an always online multiplayer game, which as I've said before, are super easy to avoid. I've been gaming for most of my life, and I've been buying digital since the Xbox 360 (and physical too, I like physical media as well), and I have only ever had my access pulled for a single game, being Battleborn. Every other game that I've ever owned--assuming I still have the proper console to play it--is still perfectly playable. So you're worrying about something that's a non-issue. I'm definitely not forsaking physical media or anything, either, I think it's great when it's available. The problem is, as I said, most of the game industry doesn't have a physical release, and when it does, it's usually for an online storefront like LimitedRun or something, not through an actual physical store like Walmart. You're basically looking at a blank wall when there's a rainbow right behind you and saying "man this scenery sucks". And if you want to stick to old games, that's fine, more power to you, but you shouldn't go around touting about how games are dead as you usually do when you aren't even engaging with most of the medium.

Yeah I know there's Indi on console It's just I've lost some accounts before and all the money I spent vanished because I didn't have a way to get my accounts back... I had a huge stockpile of games on my DS in 3DS and guess what Nintendo axed the shop and I lost everything And when I tried to port everything over to my switch it wouldn't let me have access to my old account got locked out of it and then I had no way to talk to anybody to get it fixed hundreds of dollars and hours down the drain... almost lost my PlayStation account in a similar fashion cuz I lost my passwords and my old email that took months to fix...but what didn't go down the drain was all the physical copies I owned I've just been burned too many times I don't trust it...so I don't see the point in investing and such things and I can very pessimistic It's just my nature It's also how I don't waste money I do stumble across some good games indie wise on console all the time vampire survivors was a really good one

Vampire Survivors is, like, scraping the bottom of the barrel. It's decent, but as far as "good indie games" go, it's definitely on the lower end of things. On the list, but near the bottom. If you look at Vampire Survivors and think "oh, that's good", then you should definitely explore the market more, so you can stumble across the true masterpieces. While the old eshops did indeed get shut down, you can't expect them to keep that service up forever for a defunct console. And Nintendo gave a [b]lot[/i] of forewarning. It felt like they were putting out notices every other week yelling "Get your eshop games downloaded, because we have to shut this down now! Okay? Download your games! Do it!". I also had games on the eshop, but, y'know, I made sure they were all downloaded before the store went down. Your Nintendo account has to be associated with an email, so you should've gotten emails about it, and if storage was an issue, and I'm pretty sure the 3DS is compatible with SD cards. This doesn't sound like something that's Nintendo's fault. They didn't remove your access to these games, they just shutdown the storefront, and did their best to make sure everyone knew so they could get their games downloaded. Now, there is an argument to be made on, like, the game preservation front about how that's a bit of a tragedy, because, like, nobody new can play these games anymore, and I'd agree there, but Nintendo didn't get rid of your games. You still had full access to them, you just needed to download them, because they just couldn't keep that service running. Games from 3DS couldn't be ported over to Switch anyway, though. The most you could've done is port over your old Pokémon. The Pokémon themselves, to be clear, not the games. And while losing your old accounts is a possibility, that's not something that should be happening on a regular basis. I don't mean to sound rude, but that kinda sounds like something you should be keeping better track of if it's happened more than once or twice. And, if you can't find your passwords, pretty much every service has a "forgot my password" feature.

My old pokémon is one of the things I lost hundreds of them so many hours all level 80s I believe you me I tried everything I could to recover my account but since I didn't have access to the email All my Nintendo stuff was attached to... And my new email wasn't linked to it because I had to make a new one because I didn't have access to my old one but since they weren't linked... Even though all the names were the same and I had all of the hardware they refused to send me the account reset password because the account wasn't linked to the new email account information to there was no way to verify anything they refused to help me....I lost so much.... And as far as game quality is concerned that is subjective vampire survivors is probably one of the games I've had the most fun with in a long time It's stupid but it's fun I still go back to it from time to time and sink and unhealthy amount of hours into it

For all Nintendo knew, you could've just been trying to steal someone else's account. They can't let you just swap emails like that. Stuff like that [i]should[/i] only be happening once in a blue moon, and once again, that's not something you can really blame Nintendo for. It's not Nintendo's job to keep track of your passwords and whatnot. And if you couldn't recover the account through Nintendo because you didn't have access to the old email, then you should try to recover it through the email, and if you couldn't recover access to the old email, then that's a problem on the email side of things. And while losing the Pokémon does indeed suck, it's important to place the blame in the right place. Nintendo did everything on their end to make sure everyone knew to get their Pokémon out of... What was it called? Pokémon Bank? Plenty of forewarning, and many emails. I admit shutting down Pokémon bank was a little weird, but I'm willing to bet it was a software compatibility issue or something. Oh, don't misunderstand, I'm not dissing on Vampire Survivors. It spawned a whole subgenre for a reason. I'm just saying, imagine the fun you got from Vampire Survivors, and then bear in mind that there are hundreds of indies out there that are even better. Then think about the amount of time you've spent in Vampire Survivors, and how much fun you had, and realize how silly it is to claim that modern gaming is dead. Vampire Survivors is a game born of the modern game industry. It literally couldn't exist back in the old days. The barrier to entry for game design was a lot higher, and it didn't have the framework it needed from the games it was built on to make itself into what it is.

The email was the problem I set it up to link my stuff to it then never used it never needed an email for anything never used email for anything It's just everything started needing one for whatever reason and I was what a teenager when I set that account up just so I could link everything that required one to it but never did anything with it well it turns out after a couple of years and you don't log in they delete your email account I had a lot of stuff attached to that account and lost almost all of it luckily I was able to recover most of it through my phone number....I was able to get a lot of things moved over to a newer active email but I lost a lot... And again it all boils down to digital stuff getting deleted when it shouldn't be It had my name attached to it It had a phone number attached to it how hard is it to give someone a phone call before you start destroying people's stuff....

I'm sure you can recognize that that's an extreme situation, though? Like, that kind of thing isn't going to be happening on a regular basis, especially now that you know it's a possibility you'll at least log into your email every now and then to keep it active.

I had and have no other frame of reference it happened and it was a garbage experience and it's all the reason I need... If it can happen to me it can happen to anyone and I'm not going to let it happen again so any trust I have for companies is so paper thin and over the years it's only been proven that time and again that they don't care and will screw you over if they can get away with it or if they can make money off of it and if it's any extra work they're just not going to do it whether they're in the wrong or not....

Well of course. I'm not saying companies are, like looking out for you or anything. Nah, every company is garbage to some extent. Even the good ones like Nintendo do scummy stuff every now and then. I'm just saying, your fear is primarily unfounded. Yes, things like this [i]can[/i] happen, but they are so extraordinarily rare, that locking yourself out of 90% of an industry that, as far as I can tell, you do enjoy is a little extreme. While a company can usually get away with shutting down their servers or something, thus making always online games a risk, locking you out of single player games would land them in right hot water legally, so they're not going to risk it. You were hit with a bad experience, and the resulting loss sucks, this is true, but that experience is an extreme situation. That kind of stuff doesn't happen very often, and you shouldn't lock yourself out of digital games because of it. Or, at least, if you do, you shouldn't go around complaining about it, on account of it very much being a personal decision, not a problem with the industry.

It's not that rare or people wouldn't be so adamant on having physical copies or a backup download companies are so afraid of losing that ever moving carrot...things like DRM eulas do everything in their power and make sure you do not own anything that you purchase that you can't save what you own because you won't buy anything new if you have all your older stuff they can't resell you things if you own it

No, it’s pretty rare. Outside of extreme circumstances like the one you brought up previously, always online games are the only ones that become unavailable with any amount of frequency. People who are insistent about physical media only are usually either overly paranoid or collectors. [quote]because you won't buy anything new if you have all your older stuff they can't resell you things if you own it[/quote] This is a silly argument. You only need to take one look at Skyrim & it’s 700 different remasters to know that’s not true. The casual gamer crowd is happy to buy the same game over & over again. Not to mention even if people didn’t buy remasters (which they do), most people would still buy new games. No offense, but not everyone is stuck in the past.

On a side note about having to rebuy a game.. every sports game ever and Forza is especially infamous they shut down all of the older Forza games for Forza 1 I was playing Forza 4 Buddy of mine was playing it I was able to start playing it and then they immediately shut it down screwed me out of my money every sports game they come out is a barely a copy of the previous title you can't reinvent football or baseball but they can slightly change the stadium slightly change the uniforms upgrade how a character sweats when they're standing on the mound and then resell it to you for 70 bucks and then conveniently shut down the previous servers when they open the new one... In all the thousands of dollars people spend on packs for players for soccer or otherwise just to reset it and have to do it again and again.... When they could easily run it as a one continuous game via live service.. but they make more money ripping you off every year for the next installment... With Skyrim it was made better every time it was released remastered more DLC extra stuff fixes crash fixes patches and it was easier to re-release it on disc so that way you could have all the updates on disc not just reselling the digital for the sake of reselling the digital...

I'm not stuck I'm just careful.. I'll tell ya flat out I'm poor I don't have much and can barely afford food and a few things I do have I've had to save up for a long time for so they have to be something that holds value...I cannot and will not waste any money on things that don't have tangible value... If I lose internet if I lose my place to live digital media is not something I can trade for food... temporary things have no place in my budget my survival depends on it... And is the main reason why I have such a death grip on what little I have

[quote]I'm not stuck I'm just careful..[/quote] I mean, aren't you, though? Every time someone asks for game recommendations, it feels like I always see you popping in to tell them that modern gaming is dead. And don't get me wrong, I get being poor, I've been there, too. And if that's your reason for buying physical media, then that's fair enough. But, that's something different than what you say when you pop in for a game recommendation. You say things like: [quote]if you want a true offline game you're going to need to do some research and invest in older games[/quote] Which is just blatantly untrue. This doesn't sound like the sentence of someone who thinks gaming is still alive and well, but doesn't have the funds to participate in it, but rather this sounds like the sentence of someone who thinks modern gaming is dead. Side note, while I get where you're coming from in that you can't sell back a digital game, if cash is a problem that's actually all the more reason to go digital. Because while you can't sell them back, it gives you access to a much wider selection of games and many of them are super cheap, but still quite good. Not long ago I bought Mages of Mystralia for literally $5, and I think I bought Ghostwire (which is normally $60ish) for $15. And while those were both on sale prices, most games I buy are $20-$30, even at regular price, because indies are usually cheaper. Digital sales are usually way bigger discounts than physical sales.