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7/21/2025 12:53:52 PM
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Fix or remove weapon armor’s stat in pvp …
For context : This stats give you an unfair advantage in pvp , it can decreased the précision needed to achieve the optimal ttk on a weapon but at a certain point in investement it give you so much damage bonus that it decreased the number of bullet needed to kill an opponent -> you can two burst with a 390 pulse or 3 tap with rapid fire scout / 180 HC with above 160 armor stats for example
It’s the most unbalanced thing ever
How are you supposed to balance weapon in pvp if one guy can two tap / two burst with it and the other guy can’t do the same ? And can’t even couter it by investing in an other armor stats like health for example ?
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Having any stat influence the raw damage of anything, be it an ability or a gun, is just a bad idea in general. How do you know if a gun or ability needs a buff/nerf if these stats are hiding that information? How do you balance a PvP experience when TTKs are all over the place because of stat fluctuations? How do you balance an encounter in PvE if people with 200 Grenade or 200 Super are dealing so much more damage than everyone else? What ends up happening is you start balancing encounters around the idea that people are going to push these extremes, making everyone who doesn't even worse in comparison and everyone who does feel unrewarded for being so overly specialized. We're coming up on 10 years of Destiny and they still haven't learned one of the most basic lessons in balancing.
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When I saw that weapons was going to be an actual stat that players can invest into from gear. I knew this was going to be an issue. Just look at the raid race. If you didn't have 200 int and 200 weapons you were starved throughout every encounter and wouldn't have enough dmg during the damage phases. To hear that these dmg bonuses translate over to crucible was either an imbecilic decision, an oversight, or just straight up negligence. I feel it's some combination of that and prolly more.
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3 답변Precision instrument needs to be removed, because it breaks every gun it is on. Once that perk is dealt with, we can look more closely at the Weapon stat. I stand by the statement that ALL free damage perks create problems. (Think target lock, box breathing, precision instrument, high impact reserves, etc. ALL of these perks defined the meta at one point, and ALL have needed to be nerfed several times.)
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2 답변작성자: Dr Livingston 9 7/22/2025 1:11:24 PMThat is the most unfair and lopsided decision Bungie ever made. What if your weapon stat is super low do you struggle to get kills?
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6 답변작성자: Kiro - 13 7/23/2025 1:08:29 AMThey will remove the bonus damage from PvP while in PvE it will remain unchanged. Due to lack of development time from reduced staff and the "crunch" to get marathon out the door this was not implemented with the launch. Looking at late September or early October for the bonus damage to be disabled in PvP. The future of stat set up for PvP after this change will be 200 Health & 100 Class Ability. With stats like grenade and melee being invested in till "break points". There may potentially also be a wormhusk/alpha lupi meta using thruster/dodge with 200 class ability due to the short cool down of dodge/thruster paired with the over-shield gained from the class ability stat.
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작성자: Sleep 7/22/2025 10:13:05 AMYou can think the galaxy brain pvp weapon designer Mercules for this and many of the other awful changes that have ruined pvp in the recent past. He thought it would “add to the fiesta fun of pvp” or something along those lines.
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Bump, whoever thought dmg increase by a stat was a great idea is a genuine idiot; you don't have to have a videogame design degree to understand such a basic concept I ain't touching trials until that -blam!- gets removed
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1 답변So literally build into it then. Why are you bítching about something EVERYONE has access to? Get better.
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5 답변작성자: cyb0rgSaint00 7/21/2025 11:31:11 PMNot only do we have to deal with players with a distinct advantage due to the weapon power it has given cheaters another way to exploit this -blam!- show of a game. I just played a guy who was a 22 yet he was melting everyone. There is no way his weapon level is high enough to do the amount of damage he was doing and it was evident he was using a “device”.
