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I'm not leaving Destiny because of the exotic mission. I'm leaving because of the toxicity towards people with anxiety

For me, it's not even about the exotic class item or the mission. I've done raids and the like before, and while I don't prefer them, I can manage. At the end of the day, it's a video game. But seeing so many high profile content creators, influencers, streamers, and social media users downplay and even joke about people with social anxiety? "you're just using anxiety as an excuse to get hand outs" "go play a single player game" "if you can't do this then you have bigger problems in your life" I've dealt with severe panic attacks and anxiety for about 15 years and can understand and empathize with a lot of people who deal with it. When I see hundreds or even thousands of people agreeing with community members who are dog piling on individuals with actual mental health issues, I'm disgusted. So, yeah. It's not about the game anymore. I can't continue to put myself in a community spearheaded by those that treat mental health as a punchline.
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  • 작성자: Rams 6/17/2024 8:31:26 PM
    It’s a multiplayer game, if you can’t communicate with other people that’s fine, but you cannot expect to be able to do all of the content and get all of the gear. I’m not ripping on you or anyone else with anxiety issues, because i have them myself. I’m just saying that people need to understand that this isn’t a solo oriented game.

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  • Brother we all have anxiety of some kind.

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  • I love how this post brought out the EXACT community you were talking about. Good job on solidifying his point with your moronic remarks everyone 👍

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    • If your not feeling relaxed and having a good time playing a video game, I HIGHLY recommend dropping it. I was like this with league of legends, sat down, got mad at people and myself while spending my free time in my one and only life being angry while that stacks on top of life, it just leads to a very soul sucking experience. One day I woke up as if someone snapped their fingers, I said “why am I playing a video game just to get mad” I asked myself if I was having fun my answer was “no” so I dropped the game and never went back. It’s like quitting smoking it sounds easy but isn’t as they pry their way into your head and get you addicted while having to stride through the swamp of problems that come with it, that includes toxic people, they’re everywhere and if your not careful you’ll turn into one of them. All in all moral of the story is find a game that doesn’t give you anxiety and doesn’t make you want to pull your hair out. Thank me later.

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    • @moderator @ninjas where you at this thread is disgusting. Peoples take on mental health disorders being a choice is unbelievable.

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    • I’m sorry. I get anxiety, I get depression, I understand all this type of stuff. But. If you’re having crippling anxiety trying to talk to people online in a video game, and unable to function, you need to find a new doctor/psychologist because whatever you’re doing isn’t working. How can you function in society at all if you can’t talk to someone over a video game. I’m not trying to be a -blam!-, I’m just asking a legitimate question/airing a legitimate concern here…..

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    • Most toxic gaming community there is. Proven time and time and time again over these 10 years

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      • A) don't listen to "influencers". It's a job where they live from being loud and play with emotions. B) get ppl around you that you know and trust. LFG always is a toxic hellhole ;) there are chill players out there

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        • And bungie has the cheek to champion about mental health not to long ago it's a farce on their part tbh

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        • 작성자: SaltieSeaTurtlez 6/16/2024 2:30:09 AM
          Unfortunately most people don't have much understanding of severe mental health....

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        • Aye, there are some -blam!- out there. I had some f**ker belittling my [b]Registered[/b] eyesight disability the other day. They got the block-hammer.

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          • Just casually scrollin through here and clicking the good ole report button on any hateful or toxic comment I find, doubt it will do much, but I get where youre coming from. Stay strong bud.

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            • This thread needs to be locked.The amount of people in here that dont understand or don't care about Mental Health is appalling. Would most of you say all the things in here if it was about race or being trans/gay?I think not

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              • I know we're your coming from. I took a year out cause of the way the game is and the toxicity of the community and elitists. I've came back but not playing it as much as I revert to other games which keeps me sombre. Screw what the A***oles say here in this thread that is bad.

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                • I love how so many people here are proving exactly why people have anxiety to play with others here. I wanna limit the amount I play with you annoying people as well. If I’m using lfg it’s cause I prefer having you bozos as meat shields

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                  • Mate, there are plenty of exotics I don’t have because I was just like nope, not doing that mission or raid… when people ask me if I have it I say no, then we continue on with an activity… if anyone has an issue with my sans particular exotic, I move on because they obviously have their game play in a set box determined by a couple videos rather than just giving it a crack.

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                  • 작성자: ECHOdoctrine 6/15/2024 12:18:10 AM
                    I think THIS is also a factor in my decision too First i was just angry & really surprised that Bungie, a company that promotes itself so much for doing positive things, helping others, saying they want everyone to be included & play would Promote an awesome new item so hard in Vidocs & TWID Blogs... BUT then lock it behind a Extremely restrictive mandatory 2 player (1st ever not solo available & not 3 player) mission that has a time failure wipe to orbit mechanic and the mission is full of raid symbols, requires fast communication and has constant adds spawning while you are supposed to do those mechanics. [b]That was ALOT for me to take in, but i was strongly considering going for it.[/b] But then I saw all the vitriol, the hate, the negative comments to solo players, to players with handicaps, to any gamer that struggles, and the blatant disregard from the "Destiny elites". Some of the big Destiny streamers and content creators were laughing at and making jokes about Anxiety, they dismissed any concerns of it, told people to "suck it up" or disregarded how players felt by saying "oh its NBD, its not a hard mission, what are you all moaning about" ALL of that and their attitudes really set me down the path of being angry at Bungie and over this game and this so called "community" THIS is NOT that same community that helped raise millions for St Jude back in the DestinyCon GuardianCon days. This might not be the game I should play as a hobby or at all IF this is how it treats its players. EDIT: My Goodness, I scrolled the replies & had to come back & and edit, SO many disgusting replies are exactly what the OP was talking about, Dismissive, rude, flippant, demeaning, the replies show the truths of what OP was saying

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                    I remember when this game had a welcoming community

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                    • [quote] I'm leaving because of the toxicity towards people with anxiety[/quote] Seeing how this developer is very toxic that they are a shell of their former self It's no wonder a lot of the community is toxic. It has gotten a lot worse since they went on their own, and it doesn't matter what anyone is going through, mental health issues or not. This developer started the path the toxic people are on, and they feed into it. Steamers are a plague of gaming, and it doesn't help the developer and their streamer bodies work against the community to make a profit instead of working with the community to design a quality type of game.

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                    • Unfortunately the game is riddled with kids that didnt get enough attention from their parents, and now they are using their built up mommy and daddy anger issues towards other poeple because they are sitting "safe" in their a basement and using any kind of rage towards others who, quite often, simply doesnt play the same way they do, which infuriates them because it takes away the only good thing they have... their belief that they are good at this game. And when someone doesnt acknowledges that... oooh the anger!

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                      • And then come a bunch of posts that prove your point. I agree that toxic players take the fun out of most team activities. That's why I play solo. I respect the choices of other players who play solo, for whatever reason they might have.

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                        • It’s at times like this the community really shows it’s true colours, toxic elitist gate keeping of the highest order

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                          • Unfortunately anxiety and mental health issues are not as important for Bungie as other topics. Just proves Bungie and its employees mostly do not care about diversity at all. Unless, of course, it is used for marketing purposes. Makes me wonder how some Bungie employees feel. As for streamers and whatnot, they don’t give a single crap about anyone else. They mostly are entitled brats (or brats who grew into idiots) who don’t need to worry about working much and spend the whole day speaking to a PC. They have very little human interaction, so doesn’t surprise me they don’t feel much empathy for real people.

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                            • I get it, a lot of the content is focussed towards group content. as long as you can do that without needing to communicate as much, it's fine. But the moment people start being toxic, I want to just grief them.. Personally I don't have as severe an anxiety that it'd make me unable to play, But I have played with people who had such situations.. Receiving criticism through chat can be enough to trigger some people to panic, but there are too many players who don't care about such things. Or they only care once they realize someone actually has an issue.. Personally, I was on the verge of uninstalling because of pathfinders being so stupidly designed that it triggered the hell out of me.. But I love this game too much..

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                            • This is very childish self victimization.

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                            • Thank you for being transparent, and good post....but with caveat I believe you'll understand better than most. I didn't read through the thread, so apologies if this is a repeat. Yes, social anxiety is real, complete with diagnosis. I fully acknowledge and empathize with those affected. It can come from a number of root causes. I do have direct personal experience(s). We both know there are also those who claim social anxiety or state "understanding it" when there's no truth in either instance. I'd be willing to bet you take issue with these individuals to whatever extent. Personally, I find them contemptuous because it's disrespectful and only creates issues....most particularly with understanding. I'd also be willing to bet...as an affected individual...you've identified instances here on this board you can reasonably deduce fall into this grouping. It's possible some individuals posting here are undiagnosed, based on presentation. But in those cases, the player base at large cannot be held accountable to differentiate that which even the individual isn't cognizant of. Part of the issue here is a mirror reflection of other social settings. It boils down to misunderstanding and/or awareness in genuine cases such as yours....which can be exacerbated by instances of self - believed / diagnosed "affliction category" abusers. When it comes to interaction, you'll sometimes discover down the line (as opposed to immediately) that an acquaintance here or in outside life....is affected with social anxiety in some form. You may have found this to be true. What we're talking about here in this game world in which interaction / relation may be very brief (accomplishing a 30 minute - 2 hour task for example). There's not much of an opportunity to know someone except for that which they declare,.....in an LFG listing for example. Respectfully, I don't see this as a situation where "the community is spearheaded by persons treating mental health as a punchline"...... It's more an overall blend of non-understanding individuals / mis-representing individuals / afflicted individuals not taking full accountability for themselves. So this is what we do. Communicate. I've seen some positives....for example, threads here offering Dual Mission help stating alternate comms are available and offered. This is what's supposed to happen....the means is irrelevant (so yes, involvement here matters).

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