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8/6/2023 3:15:21 PM
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Is Bungie being GREEDY?
DISCLAIMER: This post is not entirely accurate. It is based on rough estimates and data posted on other sites. Also understand, that Bungie's marketing and maintenance costs are not considered. Other important information also not considered. The point however, is to simply illustrate at face value that "cost" and "resources" as explained in the SOTG article, doesn't even come close to being an excuse in my opinion.
Cost of building a AAA game from SCRATCH examples:
- Destiny 1: $140 million.
- Grand Theft Auto V: $291 million.
- Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2: $298 million.
- Starfield: $250+ million.
The average cost of a AAA according to many articles on the net: $60-80-100 million.
Rough estimate of Bungie income just in the past three years:
- Sony Partnership: $3.6 billion.
- Lawsuit Against AimJunkies: $4.3 million.
- Lawsuit Against Ring-1 $2.2 million.
- Lawsuit Against GatorChests $2 million.
- Lawsuit Against Player: $490k.
- Lawsuit Against VeteranCheats: $12 million.
- Lawsuit Against Wallhax: $16 million.
- Beyond Light sales: low estimation of $50 million.
- Anniversary Sale: low estimation of $20 million.
- Witch Queen Sales: low estimation of $50 million.
- Lightfall Sales: low estimation of $60 million.
- Eververse Store Sales: ONLY GOD KNOWS.
- There are 42+ million registered players. Can only speculate how many of them spend money on the game? So, if a mere 1% bought a season pass, that's $420k per season, or $1.68 million a year.
To help put things into perspective, just from Sony's Partnership deal, Bungie has enough income to build 12 AAA games from scratch.
Yet, Bungie claims they don't have enough "resources" to create an ANNUAL Ritual Armor Sets.
How Bungie makes Destiny armor: [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/destiny2/comments/15iy78s/does_bungie_not_use_this_system_to_create_armor/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1/]VIDEO[/url]
It seems like Bungie is giving the bare minimal, or just enough to get by, and that bar is getting lower and lower each season. Veterans already and totally understand this.
Bungie has 9k+ employees.
Bungie is currently working on Destiny 2, and Marathon.
Bungie is also rumored to be working on Mattr and a mobile game(?).
I personally wonder if Bungie is: being greedy, has too many employees, over-paying certain employees, working on too many projects at once, mis-managing money, or a little bit of "all of the above".
What do you think?
[spoiler]For the record, I still think Destiny is a first rate game, its the only one like it. Although, I fear its moving away from that.[/spoiler]
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1 답변This might be the most misinformed, nonsensical post I have ever seen on the forums. Damn. Bungie's employee numbers is 1,000 -- and that's only more recently. You can easily Google that. You need to realize that $2.4 billion of the acquisition paid the shareholders who sold Bungie. That doesn't get injected into the game. That's what they are paid for their ownership. The other $1.2 billion is left for employee retention. You want to keep that 1,000 employees working on the games, right? A Bungie dev more recently came out and said he makes $195k a year. Even if the average salary at Bungie was around $100k which is probably low for a AAA American Game developer, that times the 1,000 employees is $100 million just in employee retention a year (and this is probably low). It took Naughty Dog 6 years to build TLOUP2 with a 200 full time team at $220 million which would average out to around a little under $200k a person. That's $40 million a year in just employee retention -- a studio 1/5 the the size of Bungie. Let's not get started on the fact that lawsuits are won to cover damages, lol. That means Bungie lost money on something damaging and the lawsuit is there to restore what they lost, not add. Not to mention some of that total sum also goes to all the fees associated with legal action. What you outlined here is mostly false with VERY low numbers that would have lead to them shutting off the lights years ago. Bungie is easily making in the high hundreds of millions of dollars a year -- and that could even be a low guess. But to claim it's all based on greed like it doesn't take hundreds of millions of dollars a year just to run this studio is foolish. [quote]I personally wonder if Bungie is: being greedy, has too many employees, over-paying certain employees, working on too many projects at once, mis-managing money, or a little bit of "all of the above".[/quote] It's none of the above. That's why they were valued at and then acquired for $3.6 billion.
