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7/12/2023 3:40:47 AM
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Iron banner used to be fun. Why is it the opposite now

I enjoy quickply Control and have spent many hundreds of hours trying to git gud as the children say. Although i am terrible at d destiny pvp- guaranteed I coukd’ve Stomped you in Goldeneye, any node. Not saying to brag on any level . . I truly don’t know why IB has turned free turned from a fun joyous game mode into an absolutely Painful chore. But it has. I spend far more time playing d2 than i should- nearly every free minute i can find- multiple hours per day, every single day. I used to enjoy iron banner very much. Now it’s a pointless chore that just isnt fun anymore. And i feel dumb for even Trying to have FUN with it anymore. Video games are supposed to be about fun right? Well iron banner is the antithesis of Fun at this point

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  • 작성자: Synge_X 7/15/2023 9:59:16 PM
    SBMM, lack of lobby balancing, Jotun, Fusions that one bang from Pulse range, Titans with insane shield uptime, far too frequent heavy spawns, and without a doubt… worst spawns in the history of gaming.

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  • What's killing it for me is the sandbox combined with the game modes. -Titans currently reign supreme in PvP; just look at GG Supremacy and True Vanguard's video on them (whilst I dislike parroting content creators like I'm incapable of original thought, he does show his data and saves us the trouble of hunting for it). -Titans are the best at objective control (followed by Warlocks, and Hunters suck at it; but Hunters generally have better kits for PvP than Warlocks). You can peel a Warlock off an objective with DPS, but for a Titan you need burst, and that means you need coordination. -Objective-based modes will always suck in quick play, irrespective of which game you're playing. Whilst everyone wants to get kills (otherwise what are you doing in PvP....), only some bother with objectives, so it ends up being a coin toss as to which team has more people that want to win more than they want to slay out. This feels [i]extra[/i] bad in Fortress because kills are worth 0 points, so the slay out crowd are approximately useless. So many people here are blaming SBMM, but I'm confident that's an echo-chamber effect; most of the people who come to the forums are hardcore players of some mode or other (I'm a PvE main who raids frequesntly, for example), and the average player doesn't come here. There's a reason SBMM keeps coming back. [b]If[/b] SBMM is working correctly, every match should feel fair (minus any bad connection stuff, but any meaningfully bad connections should just not be placed in that match). Anyone against that doesn't want actually PvP to feel good, they want PvP to feel good [i]for them[/i] and screw everyone else, and therefore their opinion doesn't matter. Now I will say Bungie's matchmaker is shite, irrespective of if it's doing SB-, FT- or CBMM. The lack of dedicated servers is also an issue; one which the PvP mains have pointed out ad nauseum.

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    • I jumped in yesterday on solar hunter. Not my main and not even a subclass for challenges. I ran what guns I wanted and kicked it with some friends and had a great time. Yes getting blown out isn't fun but if you don't focus on winning it's still enjoyable. That being said Bungie can't figure out what it wants, cbmm, SBMM, FTmm, they keep changing it and allowing two of these filters to run simultaneously makes for an abysmal game. Add on fixing bugs that help players and leaving bugs that hinder just adds to it as well.

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    • Fortress just sucks, worse than Eruption. Also the spawns are awful

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    • My fun died when bungie nerfed hand held grenades to no longer one shot, all while leaving one shot abilities on hunters and titans. I used to be able to run double primary but without any one shot ability I’m forced to run specials to even do well. Its even worse when the game went sbmm, not only am I facing really good sweaty players but I’m facing a ton of sweaty players with one shot abilities when I have nothing other than my special to help me deal with them. pvp has died for me and the way I used to play the game. Then we have pve, with one 15 minute story mission every week and nothing else to do after that. Then iron banner comes in and the loot just sucks. What I’m saying is, destiny is no longer a fun game anymore, its a list of chores and anything that was fun gets removed or nerfed to the ground.

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      • Well it's all these modes like rift that no one liked. I think ib should ether be clash a straight up 6v6 killing each other. I think freelance should come back and stay. How about a 12 man free for all rumble. I think players should also recognise how different the 3 guardians are and not cry nerf when one bests another in a way it was built like the mobility of a hunter, the resilience of a titan or the recovery of the warlock.

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      • It's the game mode that's the issue this week.

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        • I read from other posts blaming SBMM. As always. What is it what we currently have? SBMM? CBMM? FBMM? ...? Whatever combination? I believe Crucible in general and IB in particular are suffering from a) intransparent mm citeria b) low player numbers c) cheaters d) lack of creativity/innovation (new maps, modes etc) Having said that IB is OK though personally I preferred the classic control zones lock most.

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          • Rename it "lame Titan bubble mode." This gamemode definitely wasn't thought out very well.

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            • You know what’s fun?… NOT playing this barren and broken game. 🤣 Gaming has been super fun for me. Why? Because I’m not playing this empty game anymore and I’m playing other games instead. Gaming is fun once again. But not here! 🤣 Absolutely nothing here but a shamble mess of shallowness!🤣

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            • Because Bungie wont enforce any standards for connections and battle eye is a joke. I can’t tell you how many threadlings I’ve seen jump onto a player and do no damage and just disappear.

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            • Crap modes, mostly. SBMM did a number on it for a while. And Bungie's refusal to balance Well and Bubble in zone pvp modes.

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            • SBMM, terrible teambalance, and bad spawns, just like in all of pvp.

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              • SBMM, titan ultra meta, terrible game modes that reinforce titan meta and actively punish non titan players. Eg. Zone trials, fortress game mode, rift.

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              • Sbmm and lobby balancing

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                • The reason is SBMM One of the stupidest designs in this game

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                • It's so random honestly. Some days you win every game, other days you win 20% of your games. I strongly believe it's all manipulation by matchmaking. If you play this game everyday like most, it's so apparent when the "fix" is on. Long story short, lobby balance is evil

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                • 작성자: Bore 7/14/2023 3:18:31 PM
                  [quote]I enjoy quickply Control and have spent many hundreds of hours trying to git gud as the children say. Although i am terrible at d destiny pvp- guaranteed I coukd’ve Stomped you in Goldeneye, any node. Not saying to brag on any level . . I truly don’t know why IB has turned free turned from a fun joyous game mode into an absolutely Painful chore. But it has. I spend far more time playing d2 than i should- nearly every free minute i can find- multiple hours per day, every single day. I used to enjoy iron banner very much. Now it’s a pointless chore that just isnt fun anymore. And i feel dumb for even Trying to have FUN with it anymore. Video games are supposed to be about fun right? Well iron banner is the antithesis of Fun at this point[/quote] SBMM and fireteam sized matchmaking. PvP population during Iron banner weeks is now lower than it used to be in regular weeks, lmao.

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                • More than anything else is the server latency. Everything is so laggy I can’t tell who’s headsnapping from aimbot or because of lag. Get an ez shotgun cleanup, turn, take three steps, die from their melee. Get damage glitched by scout user -blam!- after you die. Get sniped because no flinch registers. Sidearms and smgs almost unusable because of melee rubberbanding. Shotguns only work 1/2 of the time, the other half they pass through guardians or do half damage for no reason.

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                • For me its SBMM. I guild my title and thats it.

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                  • They added SBMM and killed pvp that’s why haha

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                    • Agreed. It used to be my favorite PvP playlist, with no SBMM and solid rewards. Now it’s a slog … kind of like the rest of PvP. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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                    • Yeah, used to be. The only thing I liked about Crucible, but then the last few times i played there were such lag issues that I can't even be bothered with it anymore.

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                    • Ridiculous ranking system even with buffs. Poor game modes, no new armour sets, not enough new weapons....

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                    • Do yourself and everyone a favor. Stop playing this game. They have cheated you. They only care about your money. This game should be better and have more content than it has. This game shouldn't have this many problems. Please stop playing if you want things to change.

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                    • Primarily SBMM. I have no issue with playing quickplay modes with it, but I do significantly enjoy it less than with CBMM. Competitive modes are geared for SBMM, obviously, and af this point i think competitive is more worthwhile than quickplay anyways. This trend of FPS adopting hard-core SBMM algorithms in its casual playlists is strange, though. Games that have dedicated servers to connect to are good examples of what essentially is CBMM in an isolated environment; I've been playing a lot of boiii client lately and there's still quite a few amazing players to contend with.

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