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작성자: J Noir 6/29/2023 2:03:59 PM
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Forbes Article - Bungie Player relationship

Interesting Article from Paul Tassi. I have a lot of time for Paul, and he's made some good points. However, again, no mention of here, and now that we know why they won't touch these forums with a barge pole it seems our fellow players on Twitter and Reddit, the ones bungie gave attention to are the ones that have apparently behaved the worst. I don't think the situation is going to improve anytime soon. Article is balanced and very much worth reading, there's an audio format as well. Imo he's the most balanced out of all the game journalists. https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2023/06/29/it-feels-like-bungie-and-the-destiny-2-community-are-in-a-fight/

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    Paul Tassi writes stuff like this three times a year to appear objective Most of the time he mocks the player base on Bungie's behalf, 9 hours ago he was mocking people for not understanding tech terms used to justify false bans, which, by the way wasn't even released to the public, so Paul was legit laughing at players for how he imagine ordinary people will behave, and this he do often What average players need to realize is that we don't need clowns and streamers to speak for us, just speak for yourself

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    • Tassi has no opinion, he kneels before no commitment, owes allegiance to no demographic. He is an echo chamber and he's not very good at what he does.

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      • This dude is a clown. He is extremely bias and always gagging on Bungie D. Much like all the other fan boys.

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      • Talking about the game will keep the game alive and keep bungie not caring. Say nothing

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        • Hollywood has been destroyed by activists except for few movies like Dune, TG, and Mario. Even the fact that they are loosing billions they continue on producing woke content. Money isn’t as important as pushing there agenda. They are the blind leading the blind. That culture has infected the gaming world and there is no turning back, it will only get worse. There will be some -blam!- to go down that path, but not many, because they love the art creating worlds, characters that will be loved and respected by the masses. Support those who produce pure content and leave those who don’t.

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          • Paul Tassi didn’t say anything significant at all. All I see is simping. He is literally just parroting what is already happening. This entire article he wrote is just an echo chamber of what is already happening. None of it came out from his opinion. At the end of the article, he was still simping. It’s so obvious this guy likes to touch his toes! It’s laughable, just like the game! 🤣

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            • Maybe if Bungie “listened” more to their Community and “Implemented” what most of the community are realistically asking for and “delivered” a good season ; not the copy and paste of past; then maybe the community wouldn’t be so vocal on twitter or here for example towards Bungie. Bungie have only themselves to blame for the current “state” of the game and the relationship between them and the community.

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              • It will improve when those opposing the direction of the game finally LEAVE. When Bungie announced “Unification of Vision” almost 4 years ago, I said almost immediately that PVE would become the focus of the game and that it would change in ways that many wouldn’t like. Those devs at Bungie who didn’t agree with the change, polished their resumes and went to work at other companies. Rather than staying there and dragging down the company with endless infighting. I said that there would be a similar Winter of Discontent among player’s similarly opposed. Instead of leaving those players have hung in and continued to complain and ratchet up the negativity and hostility. Now some of that has been amplified by the stress of the pandemic and a crazy real-world situation. But we are here not because Bungie won’t “Fox the game”. It because they won’t reverse the changes to the game they made 4 years ago… …and they aren’t going to….and those leading this charge need to accept that…and the fact that what they are doing right now isn’t working and will never work. Keep this up, and Bungie will simply dig in even harder….and stonewall those engaging in it even more. Just look At Eververse. Bungie realized that we weren’t acting in good faith, and simply wanted free stuff. So they stopped asking us about how the store operates and never looked back. ….and if you think they haven’t made a similar call here. Wher the game is concerned and dealing with this community’s bad behavior? You’re going to be in for a disappointing surprise. They are done with us and our acting out. The privilege of interacting with them has been revoked. Permanently. …and all this drama is doing is telling them they made the right call.

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                • Nah, he is a Bungie supporter. Anyone who makes excuses for Bungie is a joke. Negativity will always be there and trolls on the internet is not an excuse for ignoring an entire community. Why doesn’t he push Bungie to explain the current state of the game? Constant network problems, a joke of a story, reskins of everything, horrible matchmaking, mercy after mercy after mercy, less content but an increase in price, all of the lies as we are still waiting on the armor they never delivered, etc….. Bungie deserves no mercy and Paul should use his his influence to call Bungie out hardcore, not make excuses for them.

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                  • Tassi is garbage. He's following the trend like the streamers but is a total Bungie apologist.

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                    • Don't need to read or listen to an audio of things we've known since D1 of Y1. When the community called this business out on their nonsense that gave them the excuse to hide as they usually do, and blame everything else but themselves Instead of manning up and taking the responsibility for their own deliberate poor actions. Which by the way they never have. Now, I agree that it's wrong to push hate on people, but this business is literally just as guilty as the ones they blame. For ever action there is a reaction. Maybe it's time for this business to grow up.

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                      • Bungie: We have dropped support for this game, why haven’t you?

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                      • Thanks for linking to somebody who actually has something to say, very helpful…..

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                      • We have a relationship with Bungie ?? .. When did that happen ??

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                        • Tassi has been a Bungie -blam!- for a long time so I take anything he says with a grain of salt. He, like many of the content creators, is terrified of losing his access to Bungie so he never truly takes them to task. Guess I can't blame him, Bungie is hilariously sensitive to even the smallest criticism and goes the nuclear option if you even suggest they are doing something incorrectly with their game. I remember back in D1, tagging Luke Smith and Mark Noseworthy in a tweet about something in the game that should be looked at and was instantly blocked by both of them. It's always been hilarious to me how they can't handle any type of criticism as a company.

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                        • Personally I find Paul’s takes to be generally bad and held by high regard by certain people because he writes for “Forbes” (which to me hasn’t been a good publication in about 15 years since the site became politicized?) . How can it slip by anyone’s mind that Bungie was bought out and they don’t need to engage with this “community”. That from the time they got bought out you saw the slow drip of names we know disappear and the way the company acts from twitter interactions to Twabs have become cut and dry. The community didn’t suddenly become more toxic than they were in the past. It does provide an excuse to invest as much time to interact with a community that will play the game anyways.

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                          One thing he's very right about is that the general mood is no longer affected by season quality. This means that a good, or even great, season is NOT going to fix the issues we're mad about. They can't fan service or story-write their way out of this one.

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                          • Paul is the Ben Shapiro of video games.

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                            • That's why I said when DmG left Bungie gd luck in getting communication from them that dude was the only person actually talking to the community

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                              • my favourite article is when he backpedalled on his view of sunsetting after months of vehemently encouraging it and saying it will be great for the game.

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                                • 작성자: Mark, Scholar of Stars 6/30/2023 11:46:48 AM
                                  Yesterday, I watched from Tassi an article on Youtube, in which he processed what's happening, started with Aztecross. Somehow, this strategy - of processing something existent -, seems very familiar to me. That also counts for a lot of other content creators, incl. Asmongold, who has no real experience but agrees with it. Main thing, clicks. All of this is known for years, especially in detail to those who create content, and now they pick it up, on the verge of the last DLC, The Final Shape. How convincing. Bungie provided them content for years. This was and is their income. One can reflect that pattern, also on developer and his relationship to player.

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                                • 작성자: QUIET 6/30/2023 5:29:50 AM
                                  Paul Tassi talks about games like someone who thinks he is a gamer but everybody that really is knows immediatly that he has no -blam!- clue what he is talking about

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                                • 작성자: ZyloWolfBane 6/29/2023 11:36:54 PM
                                  Nah, he's a fencesitting normie with has face buried up bungo's -blam!- just like all the streamers were until they discovered other games were suddenly popular. He's not on our side, he's barely even offering resistance against bungie and giving them excuses for their failures, of which there are many. There's never been a reason to take paul seriously, and this is proof of that. Bungie has consistently repeated mistakes that were present during D1, only now we're paying a lot more to keep playing and most of the crew has moved to Marathon, and it shows.

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                                • Not sure why some journalist's opinion is worth more than everyone else who posted here on these forums the exact same or similar grievance. Can you explain why Forbes boy is so special?

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                                  • Paul tassi? “Balanced”? No he’s not lmao

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                                  • 작성자: Ogma: Destroyer of Worlds 6/29/2023 4:29:52 PM
                                    For me it’s just about consistency. Or lack thereof. I don’t care about PvP, but I can’t imagine what it feels like for those that mainly play that part of the game. Gambit just feels like….why bother at this point? Then they introduce something like crafting, and less than a year later they’re already talking about lessening it. I think this is the opposite direction to go for this. Give people more to craft and they have more to chase. Which presents my biggest issue…. They’ve made it a point to add focusing and/or crafting to nearly everything prior to Lightfall. All core playlists have focusing, IB and Trials even have it. Raids are all having their loot updated and weapons being made craftable and focusable. However, dungeons remain completely neglected on this front. The older ones aren’t being updated. More than half the dungeons have dated perk pools for their weapons which also lack origin traits. The first two dungeons don’t even have their own loot. World weapons exist in a massive pool and they haven’t made any craftable since I believe the season after WQ, and now in the Lightfall year there is no longer an option to focus for them. IB drops regular crucible gear FAR more than its own gear, which makes no sense. Playlist gear, including NF drops are abysmal, except crucible for some reason. The way in which this game dishes out loot from one activity to the next is incredibly inconsistent to the point of frustration. I’ve never gotten a roll I want on a single dungeon weapon, from any dungeon. Not one. I haven’t seen a world weapon roll I want since WQ launch. This does not feel good. Having no meaningful way to target a roll does not feel good. Being helpless to improve your odds does not feel good. Dungeons are dead to me now. I play them a handful of times when they launch, maybe until I get the full armor set for transmog, and that’s it, because they have been so fundamentally unrewarding. I think they SERIOUSLY underestimate how players view having at least a small measure of control over chasing something specific. Give me more to craft, I’ll play more. Seeing continued progress forward my desired roll feels great. Having no foreseeable end to a chase does not. It feels like they’re being reward stingy again, and the only reason I can conclude for doing so is an attempt to garner excessive play time by throttling loot, as opposed to giving people MORE to to chase. Which is what making more craftable would do. They’ve made the game less engaging instead of more with this throttling.

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