Never surprises me how many people come up in here just to talk crap about something that is frustrating to someone. Like how dare you feel different than me and how dare you have a family. This community is a pathetic insensitive joke. Bungie made a bad call. Period! Besides every time they make a move like this it just benefits the hackers. This forum is only here for other garbage people to get there thrills by -blam!-*ing on fair individuals wanting some kind of a balanced game from a game they actually like playing. What trash. Don't waste your time. My advice If you do, direct it to the developers and just leave it. Sorry for your frustrations bro. Take care.

It's a half hour Dad, "C'mon". Father of four here, I have no issue with quitter penalties... If I have to step away- I have to step away... Life applies less generous penalties... but, by all means, stop playing control.

I have a child as well, along with several other adult responsibilities. Tending to my child is at very least, a 15-20 minute affair, and that’s if I rushed. If my child needs my full attention, And I have to leave a match, the likelihood that I will even notice the temporary restriction is very low. Also, I budget my time, for me, I don’t find it appropriate to ignore my child, and wait until it’s an emergency, to get off of the game in a hurry. Im baffled as to how a child needing attention, is even being discussed in regards to Temp PVP bans.

Too many have quit to create this current situation, sucks and could be done better but there's no way to tell if something important came up for any given player. Take the hit and go take care of your business, but be careful not make a habit of it. Idk if it's treated like comp, restrictions becoming longer but you won't receive a ban.

I always laugh when people complain about stuff like this. Acting like having a child and the world of responsibility that comes with it was forced on them lol. You (and your SO) made the decision to have that child, and now that you’re finding out that they take up a whole lot of your time, you want Bungie to cater to you? Sorry, not the way the world works. Sounds like you didn’t realize the enormity of that choice and should have thought it through a bit more

That's all fine, but you can't expect everyone to have a worse experience cause you've got kids. Kids are not obligatorty, you CHOOSE to have them or not, same goes for everything else that goes with it.

So bungie is responsible for managing your life? Or are you saying you are not capable of managing your own life? As you dont get a suspension for quitting one game you putz, & it sounds more like your hiding behind an excuse and dont really have a kid because if you did........ Being a parent is about is about prioritizing your child and making some sacrifices to your normal life. But please go on tell us more how you wished you could be a parent with less responsibility. If you really have one.

My son is nine today and my daughter is six. I don’t play video games until they’re in bed and asleep. Not so much anymore, but I n the past they have woken up and had nightmares or bad dreams and need a parent to settle back down. I bet everyone on this forum did the same thing when they were a small child. Kids will always come before video games. I’m sure most of the people in here are young and don’t have kids so they wouldn’t understand just yet. Someday you will though! ☺️

Ive become father to 3 kids (one has special needs) during my Destiny experience, pretty much for D1 I really only jumped into Iron Banner for pvp but did a little bit of QP too. For D2 I have jumped into QP alot more as well as IB I dont do comp as like you have said sometimes my kids require me to step away (I also hate 3v3 modes so likely wouldnt play it anyway) Now In saying that I havnt Bailed a match for quite sometime now, I typically wait for kids to be in bed asleep or Ill arrange with the wife so that I can game uninterupted for a couple hours here and there. I for one am glad the bailer penalty is in. For one a half hour isnt a major issue if the reason for bailing is legit, I could comfort or tend to my child and by that time Id have to wait another 15 minutes at most, good time for a food or coffee break. Deserter penalty is needed unfortunately the game is setup to promote deserting and now its a behavoir issue for some, many dont care they are screwing up the other 5 players of their team hence stuff em well deserved lock out imo. Sure we can argue its quickplay, not important blah blah blah to that I say well if its not important who cares about the win/stats use the match to test alternate builds, I do just that and sometimes find builds I wouldnt otherwise have considered in the process.

Dude. Please. Put down the controller and go spend time with your kid. Play when they're asleep....spend those precious hours with them: not in crucible!

I used to play Diablo with my Baby girl asleep in my arms, snuggled against my shoulder... Same girl now: at University to become a Game Developer Artist. I totally get you are not suggesting playing a game instead of caring for your child. From the other comments, it would seem not everyone gets that. For You Kids: A little Dad advice... Being a parent, is a balancing act. Giving your child attention is awesome for kids and parents. Play games with them, interact with them, watch shows with them. Answer their questions with real answers if you know the answer, look up the answer if you don't. Don't talk to them like they are idiots, don't pretend to know things you don't, talk to them like they are in college, even though they are 4. Their brains are super sponges, they hear, remember, and learn so much more than you would think. While they sleep, they get smarter, those happy little brains crunching all the data they took in that day... Some counter intuitive stuff: Giving your child 100% of your attention every minute they are awake, is child abuse. Do that and your kid won't be able to think, or function on their own. Teach your kid that a having a child means giving up any semblance of personal autonomy, they will grow up and not want kids, or teach their kids the same dumb ideas. Children learn by doing, and by watching, and by working things out themselves. Parents need to read, watch TV, play games, fix stuff, do house work. People who don't spend time on personal activities are [i]not[/i] taking care of themselves [i]or[/i] being good role models. Even while playing with their toys, or friends or computers or drawing those kids amazing little brains are zipping around multitasking, watching their parents activities, and more importantly, learning how to prioritize multiple important things. When my daughter was born, looking at her mere moments into this world, a really surprising thing happened: I changed. And I don't mean new years resolution kind of change. I mean activating a bunch of code deep in my brain that I didn't even know was there kind of change. My priorities changed, my outlook, what I paid attention to, everything. In the years to come I found myself doing things my parents did. Stuff I didn't even know I remembered until then, like singing little made up improve songs for my little girl at night. I never sang before she was born, but my Mom sang to me. Back to the topic at hand... Quitter penalties: Those meant to do what exactly? Maybe they are meant to stop people from complaining about quitters? Or to make players feel like Bungie is taking action? Tell you what they won't do though: they won't stop people from quitting matches. People either leave a match due to real life stuff needing attention (that won't change), or because something happened in game, triggered them, and they rage quit (a frikken time-out won't change that either). [i]Maybe[/i] you might dissuade a few from quitting for dumb reasons like not liking a map or something, but even that is a stretch. And honestly, if you are in my fireteam, and you don't have your head in the game, I [i]want[/i] you to quit. Standing somewhere afk, even crouching afk, is way [i]worse[/i] for the fireteam then being a player short. So IMO, for the [i]regular crucible playlist[/i], drop the Suspension. It is pointless there. [i]Gunship[/i] [i]Ps. Implying someone is a bad parent based on a single post is a bit absurd.[/i]

I lost connection to servers a few times yesterday and got kicked in the middle of 3 separate pvp matches yesterday. I received stern warning message each time but never got a suspension. How often does one need to quit/leave before a penalty is imposed ? Genuine question as this is not a common occurrence for me ( I think internet was wonky in my area yesterday)

Quitter penalty is basically a necessity because of SBMM. The main complaint that spurred the change is people were upset they were getting stomped in some games by people pointlessly k/d farming in a casual playlist(I don’t know why this is a thing). So some players were upset because they are to obsessed with winning even though winning and loosing don’t matter, it’s a casual playlist. When Bungie decided those were valid concerns and changed to SBMM for a casual playlist they declaimed that concerns about winning were valid, even though it’s casual. So with SBMM the teams are balanced based on player skill so when you leave that balance is ruined and those playing no longer have an even shot at winning in theory which violates what Bungie put SBMM in for. So the penalty is needed to prevent the petulant childish players who are quitting and harming that win chance that Bungie has deemed important. The system can’t care why you’re stepping away. Anyone stepping away from a game harms the precious chance of your team winning which is all the players Bungie made the changes for care about.

Can’t you just leave your character afk for a few minutes? I perfectly understand what you mean, and you are 100% right. But I’m just saying, it’s not rare that I see a player at spawn doing nothing. I don’t have that problem in pve, I can leave any activity anytime I want.

I refuse to play QuickPlay because of the Time Out. Their matchmaking is so broken, that most games are unplayable trash. Indie games have better networking. They toss me in with players from around the world (I'm in Alberta Canada and apparently Japan, Denmark, UK, China, South America, Germany - according to Xbox Gamer tags and Clan info - are all closer to me than USA), which makes my opponents unkillable with anything. Or you Nova bomb them, they one shot you, run away and then die up to 15 seconds later to my Super! And on top of that, I'm seeing tonnes of Cross Play so that I'm in Lobbies that are completely Stadia - PSN or PC Players when I'm on Xbox, which adds even more lag, broken game play and more" WTF was that??" moments. Until they grow up, replace their laggy Halo Era 2008ish Peer to Peer networking with properly Tuned Regional Dedicated Host Servers, the game will continue to be a Fecal Storm of borken game play. But Bungle doesn't care, they have your money, that's all that matters.

This is the most pathetic angle I've seen on this issue lol. Points for creativity, but still pathetic. Also Control is competitive. It just is. Bungie never said it was casual, that's something you sweats made up. PVP = competitive.

Nobody cares if you're a dad, that's your choice. Bungie's crappy decisions are their choice. Play with your kid instead of video games, problem solved.

Having to quit a game when you have a child just comes with the territory. Any way you slice it, an argument to get rid of quiting penalties is an argument to hang 5 other people out to dry without consequence. All these posts are "I shouldn't be penalized for inconveniencing 5 people because *insert excuse here*"

You chose to be a father. It's good you prioritize your child. Unfortunately the truth is that's not Bungie's responsibility. It is yours. There is alternative content to play to pass the time. If you want some logical sense on the matter from Bungie's perspective however. They're tuning SBMM as time goes on allegedly. Which means feedback on penalties is irrelevant and data gathering is priority (their actions speak to this, they see feedback but openly ignore it). Every game a person quits inteferes with this data gathering while also making the person that replaces you possibly have a bad time. At the end of the day the game isn't going anywhere. Take the penalty on the chin and move on. Bungie cannot account for people's choices in life. Take it from me. You spending time with your daughter or attending to her needs is a far higher priority than playing this dumpster fire we call PvP.