[quote]It’s not “more fair” to have rewards meant for better players handed out to potatoes. It’s also not equal cause pve doesn’t do this… This is all ok purely because the worst pvp players cried loud enough[/quote] And yet there’s no reward for the “worst pvp players”. If they’re really as bad as you say, they get lucky if they get one item. If they keep throwing themselves at it to get rewards, then logically they’re going to start improving over time. They’re not giving handouts, they’re trying to increase the amount of players at different skill levels. PvE does give handouts with god rolls of seasonal weapons that everyone can get

How many rewards do you get for no completing strikes? Or finishing encounters in dungeons or raids? They get rep and with that rep get loot… the better you are the more of both… that’s fair… If a player that cannot compete against me at all can get the same rewards I get while also being able to never worry about matching me… it’s not fair 🤷‍♂️. Equal maybe… but not fair… cause no casual actually wants fair 🤷‍♂️

[quote]How many rewards do you get for no completing strikes? Or finishing encounters in dungeons or raids? People don’t get rewards for not completing trials matches. They get rep and with that rep get loot… the better you are the more of both… that’s fair… If a player that cannot compete against me at all can get the same rewards I get while also being able to never worry about matching me… it’s not fair 🤷‍♂️. Equal maybe… but not fair… cause no casual actually wants fair 🤷‍♂️[/quote] Okay lets break down what you just said. If someone is lesser skill than you then they shouldn’t be rewarded or go against you, except people at low skill are put against people at high skill all the time, so then the high skill players are being given almost free matches. The high skill players get more trials loot, which is built for PvP, meaning they’re now going to have an easier time winning. If you really wanna go even farther with your logic, you shouldn’t be rewarded either because there are players better than you.

That logic doesn’t work bud. If you sign up for a tournament knowing you’re bad you shouldn’t get preferential treatment. Higher skilled players get “easy” matches cause they are good. Not cause they are exempt from facing better competition… Weird how my logic applies everywhere else but casuals only have a problem when it comes to crucible. Fair is skill getting rewarded 🤷‍♂️ The way it is now. Mediocrity and whining is what gets rewarded the most.

[quote]That logic doesn’t work bud. If you sign up for a tournament knowing you’re bad you shouldn’t get preferential treatment. Higher skilled players get “easy” matches cause they are good. Not cause they are exempt from facing better competition… Weird how my logic applies everywhere else but casuals only have a problem when it comes to crucible. Fair is skill getting rewarded 🤷‍♂️ The way it is now. Mediocrity and whining is what gets rewarded the most.[/quote] I can’t argue with an idiot lol. You literally stated that higher skilled players are given “handouts” because they’re better, which means they’re actually not as good as they think they are because their win/loss rate is being inflated. What I find hilarious is that ultimately this doesn’t effect you. Someone getting rewards no matter how they’re doing has no effect on you if you’re so good. This is how Bungie runs the game. Everyone has a chance of getting rewarded no matter what, raid exotics are a perfect example. I learnt and taught Kingsfall to several new people who got ToM on their first run before I got mine, and I don’t complain about it. If anything I’m happy about it, bc now they’re going to want to raid more, making it easier for me to put a team together.

Higher skilled players win against the majority because they are better than the majority. It’s their rewards for being better you idiot 😂 Ideally it should be like comp was and be tiered based. But we all know how bums like you cried when you couldn’t get rewards “locked” behind Fabled 😂 It affects everyone. Again… it’s exactly why GMs don’t give regular nightfall rewards. Then again you said it best. Can’t argue with stupid. So later dummy 😂