Same base model with different casing as "different weapons" as if it's 2009 where guns in the first borderlands is same model with different coloring. Borderlands 2 was released and they made each manufacturer have their own model and reload animation, complete with exclusive perks to make them unique and different. What do we get from destiny 2 after 5 years? Still the same base model and reload, just different in casings and origin trait that is way too long for them to add, almost 8 years to add something exists from a game 2 years older than this series. Armor is basically just a stat stick now that you have transmog and there's still no identity from armor whatsoever. Content? Chopped into pieces and price tags everywhere, I get a complete game with borderlands Yeah, destiny is nowhere close to borderlands level

[quote]Borderlands 2 was released and they made each manufacturer have their own model and reload animation[/quote] But they do the same in D2 though? Veist has side loaded weapons or P90 style smgs. Tex Mechanica while it only has 1 legendary gun favours older weapon designs and has a unique reload animation on its shotgun. Foundry exotics also have their own unique reload animations like Sweet Business or Colony. Borderlands 2 has the exact same animations within that foundry for every single gun you find including legendaries, pearls or effervescent weapons. [quote]Armor is basically just a stat stick now that you have transmog and there's still no identity from armor whatsoever.[/quote] That is why they are adding unique perks to certain armor sets to give incentive in using them like artiface armor or stuff like increases vestiges on haunted armor. [quote]Content? Chopped into pieces and price tags everywhere, I get a complete game with borderlands[/quote] Nope not unless you buy the expansions just like Destiny. Borderlands 2 was the only good game in the series the rest are mid or trash, with Borderlands 3 being god awful not only in story but also the gameplay itself. They couldn't even add Pearls to BL3 lmao.

[quote]But they do the same in D2 though? Veist has side loaded weapons or P90 style smgs. Tex Mechanica while it only has 1 legendary gun favours older weapon designs and has a unique reload animation on its shotgun. Foundry exotics also have their own unique reload animations like Sweet Business or Colony. Borderlands 2 has the exact same animations within that foundry for every single gun you find including legendaries, pearls or effervescent weapons.[/quote] And that justifies the rest being the same? Borderlands 2 has the exact same animations for weapons of that manufacturer, not all across the weapon class like destiny. What's the difference in animation between hakke, suros and omolon auto rifle/smg? None, compared to maliwan, dahl or hyperion assault rifle or smg and we're not going to other weapon class like shotgun or rocket launcher yet [quote]That is why they are adding unique perks to certain armor sets to give incentive in using them like artiface armor or stuff like increases vestiges on haunted armor.[/quote] Better late than never I guess [quote]Nope not unless you buy the expansions just like Destiny. Borderlands 2 was the only good game in the series the rest are mid or trash, with Borderlands 3 being god awful not only in story but also the gameplay itself. They couldn't even add Pearls to BL3 lmao.[/quote] The game is complete with DLC giving spinoff stories instead of chapters sold as DLC that isn't any bigger than Warframe free update. Pearls is an extension from common to legendary rarity which doesn't disrupt the flow of progression if you don't have it compared to destiny where you get barely anything if you don't buy any DLC

[quote]And that justifies the rest being the same? Borderlands 2 has the exact same animations for weapons of that manufacturer, not all across the weapon class like destiny. What's the difference in animation between hakke, suros and omolon auto rifle/smg? None, compared to maliwan, dahl or hyperion assault rifle or smg and we're not going to other weapon class like shotgun or rocket launcher yet[/quote] You are correct with Hakke, Suros and Omolon having the same reload animations but all the weapons share similar positioning on magazines and grips, so they just reused animations but I think Destiny's focus isn't completely on guns like Borderlands is so you don't get as much variety in reload animations. Though if you tallied up the unique reload animations across all weapons in D2 and Borderlands they'd be pretty close to the same amount I'd say. Bungie does want more weapon identity between the foundries but its not that important as this isn't borderlands. [quote]The game is complete with DLC giving spinoff stories instead of chapters sold as DLC that isn't any bigger than Warframe free update. Pearls is an extension from common to legendary rarity which doesn't disrupt the flow of progression if you don't have it compared to destiny where you get barely anything if you don't buy any DLC[/quote] Eh, I wouldn't say Tiny Tina's DLC is a spinoff since it actually expands upon how the character would feel from the base game that you don't really get to see in the main campaign of BL2. But if you don't own the DLC in BL2 you can't unlock as much of the skill tree and get higher level gear. Also, if you could play on the higher levels and stuff without DLC you'd still be pretty SoL since you have no grognozzle for health regen. Pearls were a big thing in Borderlands, and Borderlands 1 while it had pearls by the time you were farming them there was nothing to use them on that was relevant to the player. But anyway Borderlands 3 couldn't even add a blue coloured rarity because of memory issues, which I think is a cop out excuse for the poor management of the progression of BL3 as there isn't even a point to playing the Second Playthrough like there was in previous games. Destiny gives you plenty of great gear without paying a single penny, straight out the gate they give you an Overflow + Explosive Payload Night Watch. Then you can farm any of the world pool gear which is extremely strong and you can farm Dares of Eternity for 30th loot. You can play VoG to get a fatebringer, and you can get access to all Year 1 exotics and some others I believe? Anyway, I think comparing Borderlands to Destiny is a bad comparison because while they might have some similarities like having rarity tiered loot they are 2 completely different games as Borderlands is a local/online 4 player coop game while Destiny is an online game/mmo-lite.