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6/30/2022 7:54:08 PM
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Bow hot swap in PvP
Is it meant to be a thing or is it an exploit?
Because it feels like the best thing to use in the crucible.
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#destiny2
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Don’t know how old you are, but it’s been a Bungie thing for decades. Back in the original halo days, they had a thing called noob combo. Shoot a tracking energy weapon and immediately follow up with a BR shot. Boom, dead.
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6 답변It's for the bots who can't play without cheesing everything imaginable. They were probably the same people who crutched Felwinter's until it finally got triple-nerfed.
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1 답변It's cheesy. Exploit the damage a bow can do with unlimited ammo and swap to something for clean up. But, since the entire pvp code in this game is unbalanced to the max it has been deemed acceptable even if it's pretty lame. People compare it with sniper hand cannon swapping but at some point you won't have sniper ammo to bring someone to one hp.
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3 답변작성자: CHICKENWING4LYF 7/1/2022 4:20:47 PMIt’s so fun! What have you been swapping to? I love doing it with wave frame GL’s and then swapping for cleanup too
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작성자: Dredgen Araphel 7/1/2022 7:24:50 PMIts not an exploit its just setup. They forced grenade launchers to be a setup in the same way except a grenade launcher can 1 shot. Its no less cheesy then the pros shotgun/melee in the same motion to get a 1 shot combo or the guy whi is just smart and use a fusion. All you gotta do to the bow guy is stand your ground and keep shooting unless he shot first then reposition, don't just stay there and take it. They already nerfed the hot swap but its still viable if done preemptively or with the right weapons/mods.
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Hot swapping in general is a problem, not only with bows but with grenade launchers and snipers as well. I’ve always been of the opinion that precision weapons should be rewarded for… well precision. Right now the body shot damage of ALL precision weapons is so high that it doesn’t really matter if you hit a body shot. If you body shot someone with a sniper, bow, or linear fusion rifle they’re out of the fight for a while. They can’t peak with their teammates, they can’t play aggressively, they can’t do anything until their health regenerates. You shouldn’t be rewarded for hitting body shots with any precision weapon. The second problem is grenade launchers. To be real, I don’t think they belong in pvp and that’s fine. People who sit here and pretend that every weapon and every weapon archetype should be good in ALL aspects of the game is just delusional and has no idea how the games works. It’s okay for grenade launchers to be bad in pvp. It’s okay for sidearms to be bad in gambit. It’s okay for shotguns to be bad in pve. Not all weapons should be good in all situations and game modes. Grenade launchers need a huge nerf for pvp only to make them incredibly less viable.
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3 답변I border on calling it an exploit. For reference, the definition I use is manipulating otherwise intended mechanics in unintended means, a good example is certain attatchment combinations in the new CoD MW that I'd put into that definition. So while crazy fast swap speed is an intended mechanic. I don't think it was intended to more or less have a combo that can borderline instantly kill, especially given they tried fixing it via the Quick Access Sling rework.
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작성자: Verke0 7/1/2022 6:40:04 PMI have run this playstyle for over 2 years. Its been buffed and nerfed a couple of times, but its still pretty good. The damage nerf to LM kinda stings, but the AE buff makes up for it quite a bit. Its not the best set up, but it most definetly is one of the most synergetic ones, especially when you run it with a invis hunter. For example https://youtu.be/9XSPHwi02-Y
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As much as people don't like it, it's a genuine use in game, not an exploit. It has to be built into using exotics and mods to be effective If you run out of ammo on your primary weapon's clip do you switch out if there isn't time to reload? On a bow every shot is a reload. And people don't like the amount of damage bows do, however every shot has to be drawn and you get punished hard if you miss, especially if your not also good with your backup weapons You should also consider most bow users go double primary and sacrifice the ohk ability provided by special weapons Ultimately though, of you think that it looks easy enough to be an exploit then try using it for a while. It's a viable playstyle but not everyone is good with them or going to enjoy using them
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4 답변It’s literally swapping weapons. You can do it with a sniper and a handcannon, or any other two weapons. I constantly swap between bow and sidearm as the engagements change, otherwise I’d lose. Nobody is going to refrain from switching weapons to adhere to somebody else’s “code of conduct” for PvP. For every one player who actually does well with a bow in crucible there’s 20 other guys using more mainstream picks. Truthfully, it may be annoying when you run into somebody who’s really good at bow swap, but it doesn’t really happen that often.
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4 답변I try to stay open minded about it. After all, people who were born without thumbs need some way to compete.
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Depending on my mood, map, and how the match is going I might run with La Mon, and probably a pulse or scout rifle. I also play all three so I at least don’t use bows just with my hunter. It’s more about what will be fun in the moment and work for the situation.
