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작성자: SageOfTyme 4/28/2022 4:38:24 PM
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im just tired of nerfs man..........

PLAYTEST YOUR GAME!!!!! edit: i am mainly referring to the skip grenade nerf

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  • They said this was in prep for arc 3.0 which is coming within the next two seasons Read?

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    • That’s why I quit rushing for these exotics in Lost Sectors. Not a worth time investment. Every few seasons, I just collected them in an effort. Old exotics are just fine for me. Stuff can wait.

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      • I still remember in D1 when everyone was running ionic blink in PvP, and bungie nerfed Landfall Priceless

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      • Because you're a Hunter and your crutches are affected.

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        • I still dont understand why the nerf happened. I cant even remember the last time I saw a skip grenade in PVP.

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          • They really don't play their own game as they claim. Cause if they did, they would see the flaws and annoyances that they make their players go through.

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          • Look, if it´s not Hand Cannons or Shotgun it will get nerfed eventually...

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            • Why don’t they bring back vanilla d2 pvp as a separate mode? Make it 5v5, only allow Kinect ammo weapons. I know it’s probably impossible but make special weapons slotted as power weapons ONLY for this mode. I know the loud minority hated vanilla d2 pvp, mainly cuz it was 4v4 and they couldn’t use noob weapons as often as they can now, but having a mode that caters to REAL gun play isn’t a bad idea. No worries, the control mode we have had since 2014 will still exist.

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              • I think people need to understand what the consequences are for using a meta is. Im honestly shocked people play this game like its there first game. If something is overused and out competes its going to get nerfed. You can’t buff everything else because that isn’t fun. There are places for buffs, and places for nerfs.

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                • That's what happens when pvp doesn't have sbmm. Streamers cry that "ability spam" is too strong and is allowing "low skill" players to kill them, thus affecting the number of Shaxx Made This For You medals they get per week and Bungie nerfs everything.

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                  • 작성자: TheArtist 4/27/2022 1:11:51 PM
                    Sorry, but until Bungie separates the PVP and PVE sandboxes....and sunsets gear in PVE? [b]Nerfs are the only way to manage the game. [/b] I said that when Bungie caved on Sunsetting and everyone was cheering, that this was what was going to happen....and that we'd won the battle but lost the war on getting powerful gear to play with. With PVP and PVE sharing the same sandbox, giving PVE players the power they want to make that side of the game work, breaks the balance of PVP. So we're in this maddening, push-pull cycle. Where they'll give us power for PVE with each new content drop....then NERF it away as complaints about the "skill gap" accumulate in PVP (especially around Trials). Then without sunsetting, there is no way to retire power from the game in PVE. Every weapon becomes a permanent addition to the sandbox....and power creep starts to take over. In well-designed games, this is kept in check by retiring gear from the game with sunsetting (no infusion.). But since WITH infusion, every weapon is "evergreen" and eternally relevant....the only way to retire power from the game is to NERF whatever is at the top of the power pyramid in order to make room for something else without having to make everything more and more and more powerful to get people to use it. Whereas with sunsetting, that retirement of power happens seemlessly, predictably, and (for the most part) invisibly. But we're STUCK here, because this is what we asked----no DEMANDED----for the game when we pressured Bungie into caving on sunsetting. [i]When the gods wish to punish us they answer our prayers......[/i]

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                    • Wait what nerf did they do to skip nades? Outside of the nerf they did to shinobus for the grenade recharge

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                      • The rats will show you where the cheese is, then Bungie makes that cheese less desirable and adds a new cheese and the rats all go to the better than that other cheese, cheese. Some rats think they are getting something better because they're getting something different. Some rats dream of magnificent cheese. It's a vicious cycle, really.

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                      • If it ain't nerfed, it ain't Bungie'd certified.

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                      • Stuff doesn’t always get nerfed because it’s broken. Sometimes they don’t think something needs to be adjusted until they see how hundreds of thousands of people use it for a while. Sometimes they they either change their mind or reassess and decide that the thing isn’t in the place they want it within the sandbox. And they can’t always see that coming with just play testing. There is a whole myriad of reasons a thing can get nerfed. And eventually content has to be released. Welcome to modern day gaming. Elden Ring was in development for 5 years, and the FromSoft has felt the need to tune things up and down. Should they have held off releasing it until they were 100% sure nothing was too OP or broken just so a nerf never has to happen? Frankly I think they should lighten up on the PvE targeted nerfs myself. If we’re not one-phasing raid bosses with a side arm, just let us be. We should be OP. We’ve slain gods. We’ve been honing our Light skills for years, and we use weapons designed to kill things (not hurt, not wound, KILL). But I know Bungie won’t stop fiddling with the balance of the game. The one good thing is usually something gets buffed and becomes the new hotness, or something new comes out and nice a spicy for a while. So there’s something to have fun with. And that’s really the thing about Destiny, at least in PvE, it doesn’t feel stale. I’m not using the same preferred loadouts I was a year ago, or even last season.

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                      • Far as I'm concerned unless they're going to really lean into pvp in a way that's going to get a lot of players interested, even low skill ones............... They might as well just forget about pvp balance and focus on pve. If something is broken in pvp let it be and just let it die out as time goes on until they just shut it down. A loot pool and pinnacles won't keep unskilled players playing pvp and the mode can't survive with nothing but sweaty tryhards. I'm not saying it's dying, stats show it clearly has people playing it. The question is how many of those people want to, how long do they play etc...I sat in lobby for about 10 minutes the other day waiting for a match, finally got me and three blueberries against a match team of four sweaty tryhards. in a game with connection only matchmaking, that means that there was literally only eight people...period... for a duration, available for matchmaking. That's bad.

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                      • Heaven forbid literal GODSLAYERS have power worthy of that title

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                      • The PvP/sandbox team is awful. After all these years of unbalance they clearly do not know what they are doing.

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                      • I haven't played D2 since the second week of Witch Queen because the legendary campaign made me not want to play Destiny anymore. I've been playing Fallout 76 for the last 2 months. It's fun, rewarding, has world bosses that can be farmed, and I don't have to constantly grind for power levels to do endgame content. I can play solo if I want to and not miss out on anything. The seasons are free with unique unlockable rewards, and it's constantly having special events that award more unique items. I finally cured my Destiny addiction. I was planning on coming back to finish the season pass, but I doubt I'll stay long. Everything fun or cool about Destiny get's ruined eventually.

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                      • The idea is that you grind for things when they’re hot and then they nerf them so you go for “new” things. It’s a business model, not laziness.

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                        • I’m still trying to understand why axions got nerfed in pve. Also i think ghorn got a shadow nerf. Tracking and proximity are no where near what they were a couple weeks ago.

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                        • Why? That costs money to pay compensation to devs, pay money for benefits, have to deal with their complaining or get sued. They have millions of testers who PAY the company to test their game, FOR FREE! The company doesn’t have to waste money or waste spend wasteful “benefits” and the millions of idiots signed away their right to sue! So again, why would they? 🤔

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                          • Bungie NERFS are a tool they use, no different that the code in order to manage the game, it's just easier to NERF something than altering the code. NERF'S alter the games direction and keep players in limbo trying to find out which weapon is working best as the FOTM. I pretty much use the same loadout every day....I don't pay much attention to the FOTM. If what I'm using kills the mobs...good enough for me. At the end of the day, it is what it is....

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                          • Its how bungo operates...this is what they do: If its got high usage rate...its getting "tuned" or "adjusted" this started way back in D1 when about 72% of the player base was using auto rifles in the beginning and bungo was like whoa, we are adjusting auto rifles so other weapons get used more. And here we are now, many "adjustments" later.

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                          • 작성자: Scratch 4/27/2022 9:06:10 PM
                            It's not a matter of playtesting anymore. Bungie releases broken exotics every season to generate hype. Release broken exotics Every youtuber and their brother: "OMG, get on Destiny right now and try this!' After people come back they 'fix' it. When they build these 'broken' exotics they already have the 'patch' It's a matter of release the 'broken' version, let it do its job, swap it for the 'fixed' version. You'll see it next time they have a DLC to sell, guaranteed! They're not idiots, they're masters of marketing.

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                            • December 2014. Bungie releases the worst Exotic gun the game has seen so far. March 2017. Bungie nerfs this gun. I was tired of nerfs 5 years ago. They just nuked everything hoping to somehow make competitive PvP fit their system that was never built for it. They nerfed so much that a gun that no one would have claimed was OP when it was released was looking OP.

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