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6 답변I think not. Crow is in fact, the best guardian I have observed (among the NPCs). People who have never been soldiers might be inclined to think following orders without question is expected of every soldier. The actuality is a little different than that. As a member of the Armed Forces, we are swear an oath to follow any LAWFUL order. In a military court, claiming to be 'following orders' will NOT excuse you from a crime you committed. This distinction is made clear to us in basic training. Crow was really doing the right thing. Method matters. Torturing the hive for information was NOT the right thing, not the Vanguard way. Zavalla said so himself! Zavalla should never have agreed to Caiatls pressure. It was weak, stupid and demonstrates how ill suited for leadership Zavalla truly is (not to mention self appointed, as are all the so called 'leadership' of the Vanguard). Crow did what he thought was right, and stood by to pay what price he must for his actions. I respect Saladin for intervening in the way that he did. Respect his resolve and bravery at least. His intent to preserve the Cabal alliance that he thinks we need. Personally I see the Cabal as just another group of f.o.s. conquest focused idiots. Their arrogant stupidity is easily as much liability as their so called might is a boon.
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7 답변Real talk, in an actual military unit, we would have taken away his boot laces, his belt, and anything else he could use to hurt himself, and remanded him to psychiatric professionals. Not let him in our command structure. It's pathetic.
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1 답변작성자: Meester Brown 3/17/2022 4:14:16 PMTbh i feel some sympathy for him. He made an absolutely horrible decision but for good reasons. He was trying to be better than when he was Uldren, and it backfired big time. However, he needs to learn from this that when the lives of people you care about are at stake, you can't always do the "right" thing.
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11 답변It’s funny. I wonder how many people complaining about crow would do the exact thing he did in a similar situation.
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1 답변He murdered a totally innocent emissary (and in brutal fashion if you read the lore page about it), and jeopardised an interstellar coalition. People have been exiled from the last city for less. He should be sent packing immediately.
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My take on it is this, he shouldn’t be near anything until he got his mind straight. The fallen I understand, they never really wanted to fight, they had no choose since they were following the traveller The cabal were a bit different since they just wanted revenge for the home they lost and wanted Nessus since they had some structure there thanks to calus Speaking about the empress, she doesn’t want to be like calus, she probably wouldn’t even try get us and just run her empire Savathûn was the exception to all of this, she didn’t care about our survival, only the traveler, it isn’t our friend, we are it’s army The hive want us dead, Crota killed countless guardians, the hive killed a lot on the moon, fallen as well but they were a political type of group now, the hive did what they believed is right, meaning they had no hesitation So why are we to them, we don’t have to question this knowledge in a battle wins, we got the info, they lost in three weeks, proving to be a useful strategy Crow is the kind of character I dislike and I hate two the “chosen one” and the “treated badly but suddenly everything goes my way” type of characters
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1 답변I suspect it will come out that he acted under the influence of Savathun. Remember in one of the trailers we saw Osiris acting like Savathun and being pursued through the tower by crow and zavala.
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5 답변What did he do to trigger you? I wish I could shake his hand and get him the recognition he deserves.
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26 답변that's funny, for the first time he actually inspired empathy in me. this whole psychological operations thing makes me sick. the alliance w/ caitl makes me sick. so sick that i want to stop playing. the show must go on though. ikora and her hidden are the only ones left who i do not consider meat puppets at this point.
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39 답변작성자: KannibalKlown 3/16/2022 10:52:40 AMMeh. It’s a tough one. On one hand he violated orders, and as a consequence someone died On the other hand, he was simply trying to stop torture; a kind of torture he’d personally experienced to some degree. He didn’t realize the psion would die in that case. Take aliens out of the equation. And your hate for Uldren / Crow for killing Cayde (which frankly this forum has a lot of) If a US soldier (or insert your country here) stopped an experiment that was torturing POWs, in a way he had personally been tortured with recently, but as a consequence someone died… how would that make you feel. Would you say “kill the guy” or “he did the morally right thing” Considering how polarizing the whole “enhanced interrogation” thing and “water boarding” was in my lifetime I’d imagine at least half of you would say he did the right thing. But oh yeh. Uldren killed Cayde while under the influence of darkness. So I guess Crow must be hated and killed. [b]Keep in mind. We knowingly plowed through dozens of cabal that were on our side. Killing then for simply being in our way to get to Savuthuns ship. All without stopping to talk to them or Caitl. [/b]Simply run and gun. But we got a pass. And we weren’t even sorry Crow killed by accident and showed tremendous guilt over it And yet “we” are the heroes
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7 답변Yea yea yea, Crow did a bad thing. Nobody cares. Now.....lets take a moment to appreciate the valiant efforts of the Cabal homie that helped us on the Moon Psyop: Darryl the Fireboi. He died doing what he loved: stomping mudholes in people's asses and setting them on fire.
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I don't think it would've gone that smooth in real life. We already spat on the treaty the first time on mars dealing with savathun and no crow kills and emissary thinking he did the right thing. He isn't stable but part of that is Mara and our fault for hiding his past from him so now he basically is 2 people struggling to maintain themselves. Wasn't right and incredibly foolish but saladin leaving him the axe gives me hope, he was supposed to be the chosen one and he isn't maras puppet or spiders tool anymore.
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6 답변Crow wasn't wrong in what he did. Hell we're killing Guardians and their Ghost. To what end?
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1 답변I would’ve let them kill him tbh. Or killed him myself in that situation. Why they have him part of this when he clearly can’t handle it is beyond me. The second he started talking nonsense they should’ve sent him off to do something else. Tbh they should just let Mora have him.
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4 답변“You understand, don’t you?” I understand you should spend more time around Hive. They are not Eliksni. They have no civilian components to their culture. Hell the only known holiday they have is celebrated by turning a living thing inside out!
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2 답변Words cannot express how [b]ANGRY[/b] I felt when I walked into the Psisorium and saw Crow knelt down before a dead Psion body.