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3/13/2022 10:39:42 AM
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Bubble feels way worse now
Ever since Witch Queen it feels like Bubble is both less defensive and less powerful. Why you might ask? Well it seems that the overshield is much weaker and regenerates the overshield much slower with the damage nerf to go on top and it just makes Bubble feel worthless. I've had multiple times where a knight runs in and slashes me before getting blinded or a shotgun/fusion runner running in my bubble and killing me in the normal way.
This shouldn't be so easy to do especially since you clearly wanted Bubble to be the defense super so why in the world is it so worthless in the defense department? Also yes I just told the shotgun mains that our bubble no longer keeps us safe from their shotgun melee combo have fun
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2 답변Bubble is pretty much awful. First, they need to change the description from: Create an indestructible dome... to Create a destrucible dome... Funny, I was playing pvp yesterday and I snuck up behind a warlock in well of radiance and dropped my bubble right on them. I punched them in the back after which they turned around and we punched 1 for 1 for a couple of second until they killed me. No other damage. So, after getting off the first punch with both of us in our super, the Warlock easily won. Well is just altogether better than bubble in every way. You can also hide the sword for well behind something and enemies in PvE can't even destroy it. With bubble, you need to leave the bubble and expose yourself to damage in order to do damage AND the bubble itself is pretty easily destroyed by high level enemies, even at 100 resilience. In PvE, at a minimum, the bubble needs to be actually indestructible, as it states in the description. In PvP, enemy supers should be able to destroy it, but not kill the people inside unless you are also inside the bubble. E.g. golden gun and nova bomb launched from outside the bubble should not kill the people inside. Nova bomb or Thundercrash detonated inside the bubble can kill people inside.
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I personally feel like they ruined defender Titan. I always ran top tree and loved how you had the option of bubble or attack. Kinda like middle tree arcstrider; you could block/parry or attack. Now you choose and it feels less. IF I run my titan now it's double disc or cuirass of the falling star.
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2 답변Somewhat agree. Comparing it to Well with no exotic help: •bubble has always had that aspect of players and enemies being able to get 1 hit off once they get inside (saints wise), so no difference there. •Bubble regains shields at near half the speed of well’s health regain. And you lose it if you go outside the bubble so you’re back to square 1. Forcing you to sit and wait. •The bubble health was nerfed awhile back. They made it also pair up with resilience stat. So to get close to what it was pre nerf, you’d need 100 resil. Anything less than 60 or 70 resil, you probably shouldn’t run bubble due to that fact. Considering that, if you have 100r, you’re already more tanky than your team without the bubble. •that being said, a well heals and stays for set time regardless of your stats (no exotics). And you can shoot out of it. So you can heal and dps. A bubble can only sit there then dps after everyone is done healing. •as a Titan main, hands down a well is a -blam!- ton better. So I’m happy they gave us titans over-shield barricades. Plays to our roles. •a Titan should NVR run bubble without Saints! Because it’s all about the added run through over shield and quick add block (blind). That’s the only way it’s on par with Well. It MUST have saints to do as good a job.
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7 답변I'm not even a titan main and I can tell it feels like garbage now. Its good for weapons of light but there's just no reason to use it defensively anymore unless you're alone. Even then, Well of Radiance gives the same damage buff and better protection. The nerf feels unnecessary. Its probably because we were combining the Well's healing and weapons of light buff.
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5 답변작성자: Dredgen Araphel 3/13/2022 9:06:55 PMThe only 2 things that changed was the damage being made to 25% and it being destroyable probably to counter the aspect that let you place a barricade preferably in rally in or outside that grants an overshield as well as every benefit lunafaction gives and more hardly a nerf a rebalance you don't even need saints unless you aren't using the aspect. You cannot challenge a bubble user unless the bubble user is an idiot that runs low resilience which is tied to you super but even then I have ran as low as 30 res and is still unkillable in pvp. if you aren't using the new aspect than thats a you issue not really titans being weak and even more so if you aren't using resilience. Titans are pretty strong right now and I am happy for them because they were in a dark place last season.
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6 답변I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again. Those Warlock sandbox devs at Bungie do not want the bubble to be used or preferred over the well of radiance. I literally watched a knight in master wellspring not get blinded by the helm of saint 14 helmet and it wasn’t a delay either. The knight literally moved around in my bubble slicing me with the sword unfazed by starless night. I don’t even see starless night or blessings of light pop up on the corner of my screen either so where or not it’s even working sometimes comes into question. All I see is void overshield in that corner. They also tied the health of the bubble to resilience so if that resilience isn’t high it’s popping even quicker. The crazy thing is I’m rocking 98 resilience and I still feel like something is off about it. Then yesterday I saw a Titan get melee to death by two hunters in his own bubble so fast I couldn’t believe it.
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2 답변It feels better to me. At least it activates almost instantly instead of having to hold L2 and R2 for a while.
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3 답변At least it's more useful against Rhulk than Well is currently. Grab your Weapons of Light and Overshield without getting a boot in the face.
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7 답변I'm not a Titan main and even I agree that Bubble just doesn't feel great. Who cares about some 20% buff or whatever it is now when Warlocks can easily get pre-nerf Bubble numbers with Well and Assemblers? Honestly, Bubble should just be removed at this point since most of what it did is easily matched or outclassed by Void 3.0. Want Overshields? Bastion. Want cover? Towering Barricade. Want an increase in overall damage? Volatile Rounds (Granted, not AS good as the buff, but still an increase in effective damage). Just make Bubble something else. No idea what it could be, maybe make it more support oriented? Maybe make it like a group oriented Heir Apparent, gives each ally a Void Shield and increases the effectiveness of equipped Void weapons? Whatever it is, Bubble just isn't useful anymore. Can't shoot through it, the buff is the exact same as Well, doesn't deal damage or blinds without an exotic. It's kinda just... There.
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1 답변Bubble has done very well for me through the campaign, raids, nightfalls, etc. Are you running like tier 2 resilience or something?
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1 답변Overshields have been greatly nerfed. They feel like paper. Most things in the game that damage you can take it out in 2 shots. It's much much weaker then even defensive strike when it was a thing.
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1 답변작성자: ScrubLord199901 3/14/2022 1:07:05 AMThey need to separate banner shield from sentinel shield and just make it a third option to choose. Let it deploy like a bubble but it's just a half barrier that let's you and your team shoot through it for 30 seconds. Nerf the damage buff from 40% to 25-30% to "balance" it. That would be a million times more useful than bubble. URSA furiosa would work like phoenix protocol. Let it proc volatile like it always has. Everybody wins. Titans would still have to worry about their flank so it's not like it'll be all powerful. If you place it just right, you and your team will survive.
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Bubble hasn't been the defense king since well was put in the game. I feel like the nerfs came because of the quality of life buffs (cooldown buff and instant activation) and also the new raid favors bubble with how mobile your team has to be the the boss phases. I still don't feel like the nerfs were warranted (in pve at least. I can't speak much on its pvp potency) with a potential kings fall release in season 18. Kings fall will be dominated by well of radiance if nothing changes between now and then. You also can't even thundercrash half those bosses :/
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37 답변Welcome to how tether has been for 5 years. Doesnt supress on hit. Takes a while to proc . Anything yellow health doesnt get affected by the stun.
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I feel they should've made a 3rd titan void super since the comboed two of them into one. Each also having all the void grenades is dumb too. I pretty much have the same build for all three classes. All weaken, grenade builds. Only trade off is the suppress give mobility I switch in and out for the extra stat buff.
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Im seeing titans using them to great success in trials, just recently a titan in my team managed to pop a bubble and had the enemy warlock kill himself. stuff like that wont happen often but bubble is far more valuable in pvp now. It no longer makes you a tank to all damage when inside where sure I can understand why thats a problem, honestly that nerf doesn’t make sense. The whole reason why Bubble does what it does is because you titan mains are gods as long as you are inside the bubble, it makes no sense to nerf that. The damage boost nerf is fine considering you could walk out of the bubble and have a full 15 second to roam around the pvp map able to get one shot body kills with snipers or linear fusions. That always felt busted, bubble right now is exactly the same as well of radiance and taking away the tankiness of being inside the bubble is a nerf that should get reverted.
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14 답변You’re 100% right… Don’t listen to those IDIOTS telling you that bubble is the same as before… 1) Weapon of light - NERFED 2) Overshield HP - NERFED 3) Leaving the bubble - NERFED (as it takes your overshield away completely). Not yet only your weaker in the bubble but mainly you’re much weaker outside of the bubble.
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The only main thing they nerfed was it's damage buff for Weapons of Light. The Overshield only lasted as long as you remained in shield, and with the void overshield from the barricade, it does make the WoD overshield feel "weak".
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9 답변Not true. Think you just mis-membering it. Say that cause they only changed charge rate (get it faster now) and damage buff (you don't get as much as before), that's it. Other than those 2, the bubble is the same.
