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12/20/2021 10:55:37 PM
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Bungie, What Have You Done To Crucible?
What has this update done?
I understand the need for getting players to rely on gunplay, but the changes have had an adverse effect on what happens and loadouts people are using. Where they relied on abilities to get players low or get the kill, it is now a dominance of overpowered weapons which STILL have not been nerfed.
Le Monarque
Chaperone
Dead Man's Tale
Lorentz Driver
One Shot Bows
Reduce the aim assist for most weapons
All used with enhanced targetting mods, empowering rifts and charging with light mods to make them even more potent.
It should never be the case that weapons that use primary ammo can one shot you from an empowering rift.
Abilities now are all over the place. People taking advantage of certain classes to generate increased ability regen and spamming things like invisibility every 15 seconds and firebolt grenades now give Warlocks their helicopter ability every 15 seconds too.
Also, what's up with the connections? People lagging and jumping all over the place. The experience has become worse, even control is full of sweaty tryhards. So something is up with the matchmaking.
And don't get me started on Trials. The removal of the flawless pool was a very poor decision and one I feel that will cause people to stop playing as the matchmaking is still very poor.
What I don't understand is that you have third party sites/applications that generate all the KD, ELO and other stats for us, but it doesn't seem that you can use these to matchmake a fair game.
Sort it out Bungie - I won't be the only one that feels like this.
See you for Witch Queen.
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14 답변작성자: Hawpy 12/22/2021 4:35:07 PMCrucible is just a miserable experience nowadays. The changes to abilities seem like they were influenced only by Shatterdive and everything else was nerfed to keep the Hunters from throwing a fit. Now it's more overrun by Stompies Shotgun apes than ever, because there's no reason to use anything other than a subclass-neutral movement Exotic.
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2 답변Yes I know bows ruin crucible. Slows the game down too much and is just annoying to play against even if you win the fight.
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11 답변Unfortunately all Bungie devs are 0.5kd controller players. So yeah Bungie gives controller players tons of low skill high aa weapons. Some reason they took their 3 supers a game, though, which was wild.
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23 답변I bought my friend destiny 2 with all dlc and current season pass After 4 min que time he finally got a pvp match. He said it’s the worse pvp game ever (he can’t believe how trash this game is on year 4) He doesn’t kind pve, but he can’t believe bungie who made halo, would make such a terrible pvp. You swear halo is the 4 year old game, while destiny is the new F2P… I can’t even give destiny 2 away, nobody wants it
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30 답변The players that wanted a gunplay fornat are now whining about it. What did you think was going to happen...it was already done at the launch of D2 and was hated by most ? Now its here and the players that thought they were going to be better with the changes.... arent and will be asking for nerfs. The players that will adapt and put up with this sandbox will play still and... The players that hate it... again will complain on the forums and not play as much. Its a never ending cycle of a forced sandbox by Bungo, when will you all ever learn not to take crucible seriously...because Bungie doesnt as you can see over and over and over and over again. Some folks are just a gluton for punishment.
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8 답변I honestly hate it… the people that abused abilities now just sit at the back with a ranged a weapon abusing the brokenness of a controller. Sniper and linear fusion aim assist needs to come down a lot and also controller recticle stick…
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3 답변Funny you talk about DMT bc it just got a buff actually. I think their statement was "we saw scout rifle usage drop significantly after the DMT nerfs so we are buffing it back" completely ignoring the fact that all other scouts in the game are trash for pvp and buffing DMT just makes the gap between it and other scouts that much worse. Lets not acknowledge the fact that its basically a pre-nerf 150rpm hand cannon with seemingly infi range, and -blam!- tons more aim assist. Or how bc its a hip fire weapon you cant flinch it out of shots.
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All they did was force passivity which is the opposite of what they wanted. There is no reason to make builds anymore juts put on the most broken gun and boom you're pro no investment needed. They try so hard to make everything require skill but don't even see the flaw with that. If everything took skill then the casual audience lose by default and only the pros will benefit. I don't think invis is an issue because you still show up and its not true invis like in halo. Firebolt is garbage unless you ramp it back up with veritys brow and a stronger solar weapon like vex which wasn't really nerfed. The meta is a contest of who can use the most broken thing not abilities, skill, and most certainly ot buildcraft. Trials proved that this week only the meta wins now no point in anything else.
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While I do agree that crucible feels extraordinarily weird right now, I am enjoying the ability changes. Warlocks are supposed to be an airborne class and fireball grenades have almost never seen usage before this update. Flux grenades are extremely rewarding now after scoring a defeat with one. Titan maneuverability is amazing with the shoulder charge changes too. While gunplay with certain weapons remains higher than others, try out some of these new abilities and see what you think.
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41 답변Wtf would u nerf chappy . That’s a skill based weapon . Ur over here crying for a nerf on a skill based weapon that I need to aim and if u miss u die . Right . Bro go sit down . Ive been maiming this weapon for -blam!- ever . So u know how much play time u need to be good with this in heated situations. Ur crying bec u cannot adapt . People change subclasses and yet I’m sitting here with my handcannon and chappy using the same -blam!- subclass doing the same -blam!- day in day out. The meta don’t matter it’s all u my guy . -blam!- adapt learn ur -blam!- and get gud .
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1 답변작성자: Infamous067 12/21/2021 1:27:02 AMI don’t see how its a problem that warlocks can use their air ability every few seconds, they waste a grenade and they are extremely easy to shut down once you point out their location. Its also just one subclass and only one tree able to use it, thats no different from titans running lions rampant with the dead mans tale. As for everything else you mentioned? Its always been bad, bungie only made it worse
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2 답변Bungie is divesting from pvp. Look at how we are only getting two new maps after 2 years. The new engine has made for faster adjustments to classes and abilities but overall the attention to pvp just isn’t there. I think we will continue to see new loot for trials once a season but overall pvp is not going to be a focus going forward. Maybe Saladin will get an overhaul but don’t put money on it. My bet is their new property will be pvp focused and be a lot closer to halo pvp (no classes, few abilities). A stock car racing approach to pvp. Maybe it will have a campaign but the money will be in pvp.
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Haven’t touched PvP since the changes, probably won’t again unless they revert them. Destiny 2 year one was horrible, and the gameplay now, REALLY isn’t that far away from it. In Bungie’s constant attempts to “balance” the game for hyper competitive players, all they’ve managed to do it destroy its identity. In a time where the “competitive shooter market” is extremely saturated, there are just more interesting and polished alternates then whatever Bungie is attempting to do. They really should have just gone the other way, and embraced the chaos/quake style of gameplay. Cause there wasn’t anything else on the market remotely like it.
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6 답변[quote]What has this update done? I understand the need for getting players to rely on gunplay, but the changes have had an adverse effect on what happens and loadouts people are using. Where they relied on abilities to get players low or get the kill, it is now a dominance of overpowered weapons which STILL have not been nerfed. Le Monarque Chaperone Dead Man's Tale Lorentz Driver One Shot Bows Reduce the aim assist for most weapons All used with enhanced targetting mods, empowering rifts and charging with light mods to make them even more potent. It should never be the case that weapons that use primary ammo can one shot you from an empowering rift. Abilities now are all over the place. People taking advantage of certain classes to generate increased ability regen and spamming things like invisibility every 15 seconds and firebolt grenades now give Warlocks their helicopter ability every 15 seconds too. Also, what's up with the connections? People lagging and jumping all over the place. The experience has become worse, even control is full of sweaty tryhards. So something is up with the matchmaking. And don't get me started on Trials. The removal of the flawless pool was a very poor decision and one I feel that will cause people to stop playing as the matchmaking is still very poor. What I don't understand is that you have third party sites/applications that generate all the KD, ELO and other stats for us, but it doesn't seem that you can use these to matchmake a fair game. Sort it out Bungie - I won't be the only one that feels like this. See you for Witch Queen.[/quote] The changes made crucible boring tbh. Guardians are supposed to have powerful abilities. If I wanted to play a gun game I’d play cod.
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1 답변Eh, won't be long until the snowball teamshot meta kicks in. I've seen this episode before.
