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작성자: ICEMAN038-NL 12/10/2021 12:37:11 PM
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So Bungie came to the point of “pay to win” ?

Buy 30th anniversary pack, or else no Gjallarhorn. Buy witch Queen DELUXE or else no Exotic SMG When people bought the standard Beyond Light expansion, at least it gave the No Time To Explain, and the deluxe had some skins. What happened to Bungie’s statement years ago: Destiny will NEVER be pay to win. But now people have to pay to get Gjallarhorn and that new SMG. You no pay, you no get. And from what I see, the Gjallarhorn is pretty good, so that SMG will be also something special, seeing it’s only in a Deluxe Pack. Listen: IT’S NOT ABOUT THE MONEY! It more of a principal that Bungie made a promise that these things wouldn’t happen. And now people are STILL beeing forced to pay to get things like exotics. That SMG should just like always be available for everyone, even the ones who buy the standard edition. And putting THE rocketlauncher behind a 25 bucks paywall is just very smart marketing because everyone wants the Ghorn, so it’s easy money. BUT a scummy move IMO looking at all those pretty promises. I’m on the other hand still dubbing whether to buy said expansion and party pack. I don’t like beeing forced to pay more for and exotic and dungeons and stuff. I like to see season by season how and what it develops because Bungie has dropped the ball more often than once, so i buy what I like and when I like it. But taking away the basic things like the Exotic and putting the best RL behind a paywall, while they always maintained the “no pay to win” attitude just doesn’t feel right. But things like that had to come sometimes i guess. Promising something, and years later simply doing it still. Too bad. Edit: Pay to win was more in the meaning of more stuff like exotics behind paywalls. My excuses for not beeing native English language.
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  • Pay to win…inside of PvE…which is technically already pay to win because each expansion and season has new and powerful exotics….yeah alright

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  • Not at all imo. At least compared to what pay to win usually means.

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  • Wow, if I buy the 30th pack and get the Gally, I can win in pvp despite my .19 K/D, I better get right on that, I'm sick of losing.

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    • Did anybody notice they’re back on the PlayStation bandwagon?

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      • Pay to win….more like pay to have access to exotics. None of the exotics you listed are pay to win. Gally: -pvp it’s just a rocket launcher with cluster bomb -pve there are better dps options, plus it gives teammate Wolfpack rounds No time to explain: Pvp- mediocre high impact pulse, easily outclassed bu messenger Pve: ain’t nobody using this thing. If you are gonna use a primary exotic pulse in pve, you’ll be using outbreak. The new smg: no idea what it is gonna be like, so you can’t say it is pay to win. Pvp: most likely a 900 rpm, so not the best archetype for pvp Pve: smgs are never the meta since recluse got nerfed You can’t say these weapons are pay to win as there are better options out there. If you don’t pay, you don’t get access to everything. It’s been like this for the longest time.

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        • You can win without those weapons though so this post has no merit

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          • All I see is some wanting stuff for free am I wrong here?

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          • It’s called new content. Not that hard to understand…we’ll for most people that is….

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            • New exotic SMG hasn’t even came out yet and someone is already saying it’s pay to win LMAO Honestly, I’m not surprised it’s just funny at this point.

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            • Bud, lean in, I'm gonna let you in on a little insider tip. Are you ready? Are you sure? Okay, here goes... [spoiler]you don't need Gally to beat anything in this game. In fact, Gally has a perk on it that gives everyone using a legendary rocket launcher wolfpack rounds, so if you absolutely wanted a Gally on the team you only need one, and even then you don't need a Gally. Also, no weapon that's been included as part of a pre order bonus has ever been game breaking, so that SMG? Probably not gonna be the best gun in the game.[/spoiler]

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            • What are you winning if you pay? There is no pay to win in this game. Yes bungie forces metas to entice sales.. but I am pretty sure the better player/team still wins with whatever they can use. The vex was op and it is free to obtain.

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              • Yawn

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              • It’s not pay to win, it’s called pay to play. They gotta make money somehow

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              • Here we go again 🤦, F2P mentality. So predictable.

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                • I get where you are coming from. The question comes down to it do you enjoy playing destiny?

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                  • Lol, if you don't buy new dlc, you fall behind on loot. You can still compete, but if you don't buy new dlc, you won't play the new content anyways, why does it matter?

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                  • The WQ smg is exact like no time to explain, was that p2w too 🤔

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                  • It’s not pay to win. Saying that is like saying the raid that came with forsaken was pay to win because of thousand voices. Pay to win would be buying the guns straight from eververse but it came with content instead. You have no basis to your claim.

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                    • Didn’t you have to buy Rise of Iron to use Gjallarhorn after they sunset it in D1?

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                      • It's only pay to win if gjallahorn is the highest dps. It's good but not the highest. Take a look at the test videos.

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                      • The armour with the extra slot too!

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                        [quote] Listen: IT’S NOT ABOUT THE MONEY![/quote]

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                        • no

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                        • 작성자: TigersFan228 12/10/2021 3:55:24 AM
                          First of all, pay to win is not paying for content that is part of a broader DLC. Pay to win is when you have to pay money to progress quickly it also usually includes being extremely powerful with F2P players having very little chances at victory. That’s not the case with either of these exotics. [u]GHorn[/u] PvP: This weapon is a heavy weapon, therefore, you have very limited use of it in any PvP game. On top of that, it’s a rocket launcher, so you only get 1 ammo per brick. It won’t be much better than any other rocket launcher in PvP. No player has any significant advantage with the GHorn in PvP, therefore, it’s not pay to win here. PvE: From what I’ve heard, this it’s a pretty good DPS weapon, but it’s not the only one. There are multitudes of choices to pick from. 1k voices, divinity, you can even use a normal fusion rifle (with Particle Deconstruction) and do half decent boss damage. Not pay to win here [u]WC Exotic[/u] We don’t even know what this is going to look like. You can’t claim something is pay to win when you don’t even know if it’s OP or not. If it’s too OP, I’m sure bungie en will need it within the first month. And you’ll have this SMG with dozens of other weapon choices for powerful guns. It’s not pay to win. As to your point about paying for exotics: it’s content. You [i]should[/i] have to pay for it. Bungie worked to make these things and they should see profit from their efforts. As long as they aren’t breaking the game with these new weapons there is really no problem with it. They can’t just be giving out free exotics all the time.

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                          • Paying players must and will have more stuff than freebies....its the way things work....welcome to the desert of the real !!!!...

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                          • Gjal literally buffs legendaries to help with this. Also it's well worth the price. New assets in the dungeon. New music. Returning weapons need updated. Plus everything that's free. That all takes far more money than you might think. And I'd say this is incredibly cheap for the content given. I mean... look at Halo Infinite prices.

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