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11/19/2021 12:31:12 AM
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Unnecessary changes that don’t make sense ❌

(Game Pass) Firstly, Beyond light being removed off game pass? Why? You’re killing a fair amount of your Xbox community there Bungie, You may say the argument well just buy it back? Why should I? I’ve finished everything beyond light has to offer and I know in the future they’re just gonna make it free and that will be another waste of money. I paid for destiny 2 base game, curse of Osiris, warmind, forsaken which were made free or taken out the game so I’m left here wondering what’s the point of buying any of the other expansions especially one I’ve already played and didn’t enjoy due to the game breaking subclass. (Hunter Dodge change) Another unnecessary change, Hunter dodge? No one asked for this so I don’t understand why you would change it. As for someone that Mainly plays pvp and plays Hunter a healthy amount I can say that dodging with tier 10 mobility is perfectly fair. You are maxing a stat out, to get more out of an ability. If this is an issue then you may as well nerf recovery under health spam or something stupid because it’s nothing to do with the ability it’s how the player engages/uses. Bungie really tried to appeal to everyone on their game which is cool but by completely defecating on one community (PVP) because others from another (PVE) complain about it, is not the way to go about it. That’s like the pvp community complaining they can’t do a raid day 1 so they cry for bungie to tell them the steps or something stupid like that. Both communities have their skill gaps so let them remain that way instead of trying to appeal to everyone under the sun, no game is perfect (apart from Halo reach) they all have their differences.

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  • [quote](Game Pass) Firstly, Beyond light being removed off game pass? Why? You’re killing a fair amount of your Xbox community there Bungie.[/quote] This is where I stopped reading. You do understand why Bungie provided Free to Play? Its to give you just enough free content to get you hooked because they know if you like it you will become a [u]paying customer[/u]. Why complain about having to pay 30 bucks to purchase the same content players like me paid 70 bucks for? It doesn't matter if you got it for free and already played it or didn't like it. Your free trial is about to expire and you have 2 choices. You want to be a playing customer? You need to be a paying customer. Period

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    • Games pass changes is a Microsoft thing, not bungie

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    • 1. If you want the game, pay in full like the rest of us 2. Everyone was asking for a nerf. It has the shortest cooldown, easy use, no deploy animation, most versatile ability, and it broke tracking.

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      • No more free handouts son 👍

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      • I agree with the top part, except its not Bungies fault because Xbox strips things off every year or so the bottom paragraph is just hunter defending, stop.

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      • Hunter dodge nerf was so necessary.

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        • I completely understand the dodge nerf for pvp. All the changes make sense in that respect. But as a pve only player, these changes don’t make sense for pve, at least to me. They did say that some of the changes were pvp only, but I’m confused if this is one of those changes.

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        • Dislike the dodge nerf personally, but to say that it's not been asked for? Are you blind?

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          • Dodge nerf is fine. The tracking break sucks but everyhthing else is fine. The less dodge in the game the better.

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              It’s great. Praise the sandbox team.

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            • Did you honestly think d2 content would stay on gamepass forever?

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            • Other than Microsoft/XBox first party, games rotate off of gamepass all the time. Desinty was never going to be on gamepass for ever. If you enjoy the game then buy it or just keep playing as a F2P player.

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            • The point of the nerfs is to encourage gunplay. Since dodge is used to avoid gunplay, it makes sense. Right?

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              • 작성자: Bhulk, Disciple of Fitness 11/19/2021 3:18:04 PM
                No one asked for Shoulder charge nerfs, or a buff to make a Hunter-only grenade 1-shot. Or keep Shatterdive’s ability to one shot. Lots of questionable decisions.

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                • [quote](Game Pass) Firstly, Beyond light being removed off game pass? Why? [/quote] you do know that game pass is microsoft right? not bungie, microsoft. microsoft is removing it. not bungie. sinking in yet, bungie isn't removing it from game pass, they can't. microsoft is. and right before halo comes out....hmmmm....

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                • Literally all were necessary changes. Your opinion isn't logical.

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                • I feel the exact same way. The moment destiny beyond light is removed then I'm removing destiny 2 from my library 😂

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                  "as someone who uses Hunter with that stat maxed I think it's fair" Well yea... You would. Thats called having a bias? Lol

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                • Gamepass isn't in their control, it's up to Microsoft to pay for it. Barking up the wrong tree on that one, and most 3rd party games rotate out every few months, that's just how it is.

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                • As a hardcore top tree nightstalker who crutches on sixth coyote invis dodge. I gotta disagree with most all your points. Also, people have for sure been asking for the dodge to get nerfed a bit more?

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                • Dodging spam lead to melee ability spam. With the cool down to melee abilities going up, of course they were going to adjust all the ways for you to regain your abilities faster. Or would you rather they just delete the ability dodge and all you're left with is a reload dodge?

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                • 작성자: Ferus Lux 11/19/2021 3:30:24 AM
                  If Icarus Dash can get it, Dodge can get it too. Hopefully an unmentioned aspect of that change is that dodge no longer prevents Stormtrance damage. Like, how tf are you ignoring arc streams on you at point blank? Last I checked it was called Dodge not "become intangible." This also allows Hunters to be hit by Bolt grenades during dodge too.

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                • Ehh the hunter dodge nerf is fair, But the gamepass, its microsofts call not bungie. Things are removed every few months. So it wasnt gonna stay there forever.

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                  • GAMEPASS IS MICROSOFT!! Go yell at them! If you did not see this coming, that is 1000% on you! A live service game AND a subscription service to play it is beyond the dumbest thing a gamer could EVER do financially. You all really need to look in the mirror and stop yelling at bungie for your subscription service agreement. Absolutely no one cares because it is a “duh” moment for those that understood this. Hey, but you got 10% off of eververse purchases and you get 30% off the full retail version of the content if you choose to buy it.. so there you go. $15 a month As a consumer you then say, in that one month, is this game worth getting or can I complete it before it leaves gamepass? But for a live service game.. you have one month before you end up losing money and your time. Guess what? Most games today, and most of Microsoft games, are going seasons, micro transactions & live service… probably do not need to worry about their first party games.. but ALL third party games will go. The average contract is one year. So you might want to really want to re-think about supporting gamepass anymore. As far as sandbox changes? Let’s try it. At least they really thought about pve and any impacts..

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