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9/18/2021 2:24:30 AM
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Bungie just proved the case about sbmm
All the streamers and top players went nuts over matchmaking today because they had to face other flawless and not just roflstomp blueberries. These are the same people who cry about sbmm and this is why they dont want to face people the same skill as them
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exactly I mean the while point of trials is and should be that you only go flawless if your are playing others at the same level on their passage and have not lost I mean what does it prove to allow someone that has a flawless 6 fight a team with 1/2 wins and 5+ losses? kinda makes the whole thing meaning less and honestly if you dont think so then your just wanting things to be easy for you while your claiming to be among the best
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2 답변Sbmm in trials is trash because sbmm means you should be going 50-50 meaning no one ever goes flawless. It forces every game to be 5-4 nail biting which gets old much faster than having a mix of matches; 5:4 sweat matches easily take 15 minutes each even with the shortened timer which rips out a lot of the replay value of trials Sbmm in 6s and ib would be fine because reducing mercies would benefit those game modes in terms of completing bounties Seriously watch fallout/cool guys stream on Saturday in the flawless pool, and tell me that doesn’t rip all the replay value out of the game to have a lobby of top 1000 players all w 3x stasis hunters and 500k crucible kills. Those sorts of matches should be game 6 or 7 on your card. Not game 1 just because you went flawless before
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2 답변SBMM was in the game before and got removed because it made the game awful in multiple ways nothing has changed to validate adding it back in to any playlist that doesn’t already have it.
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The thing about it, is that not everyone is a 100x flawless sweat lord. If I only have 2 flawless runs total why am I constantly getting put with 3.0 K/D 1% players who just play trials all weekend? Explain how that’s fair?
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1 답변Instead of removing or replacing CBMM with SBMM just make it both make it a SBMM-CBMM, that way high level players match only other high level players and won't complain about lag. Anyone else gets a good time and sweats get sweats and gods get gods, less lag and more fairness combines in one package with less lag!
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SBMM in comp is the correct thing, but in other playlists CBMM is better to prioritize que times. I believe I'm an above average player with a 1.3 k/d, but when SBMM was in every playlist I couldn't play crucible with any of my friends who more casual pvpers since they are around 0.7-0.9 k/d's because of the long que times and they would get stomped no matter what. Sure SBMM is good for some solo players, but this is a game that Bungie wants you to play with your friends and SBMM hurts that.
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3 답변I'm a terrible pvp player, but when sbmm was still a thing, I still managed to have fun in the crucible. Imo, cbmm was a poor idea. I'd rather play against equally terrible players and have fun, then getting forever mercied
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18 답변작성자: BlackDog6693 9/19/2021 8:29:48 AMI've got to say that this post, and the reactions to it make a refreshing change to the normal tirade of abuse from needy, spoiled brat basement dwellers defending their right to farm/stomp gamers trying to enjoy a game. Seven years, seven bloody years of pandering to no mark 'gamer Gods' by Bungie at the expense of the people -blam!- matter, the normal punters who purchase and support the game . SBMM should never have been removed
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11 답변The funny thing is the blatant lie they all use "SBMM make the game too laggy" Yea, no it doesn't...it's 2021 & even 3 years ago when it was SBMM it wasn't laggy at all. Its a flat out lie they use to try and prevent SBMMs return.
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I suck at PvP so I don’t do Trials. I have been tempted to try it once but I think my matched teammates would kill me. Some friends and I did Trials of the Nine once, that way no one would suffer when we got wiped out, and boy did we get wiped out.
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60 답변The issue is more that quickplay isn’t a competitive playlist. So it’s not supposed to be a test of skill so it shouldn’t have SBMM. Trials and competitive should be a test of skill and they are upset that it is actually attempting to test their skills.
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1 답변Bad players typically don’t understand that good players like to help people flawless or play with their friends. Doing that makes it impossible to win in the flawless pool
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1 답변That's not really the issue. It's that if you go flawless, you make it way harder on yourself for no extra or better loot. It's stupid
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3 답변작성자: Le_Reinforcements 9/18/2021 10:43:41 PMA good amount of complaints were about the horrible connections that SBMM can result in. A valid, if somewhat ignored, complaint. Unfortunately, Bungie still isn't going to give D2 players the one thing we've asked for since D1: [b][i]Dedicated Servers.[/i][/b] As it stands, everyone forgets that the P2P servers figuratively liquefy under SBMM, and instead we simply call out the high skilled players for wanting to stomp lower skills (like myself). As usual, the truth lies somewhere in the middle, and the blame lies mostly with Bungie.
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33 답변작성자: blubs 9/19/2021 2:02:37 PMIf only people on this forum had enough brain cells to understand the actual complaint and the actual problem Instead they just cry about “Streamer bad, good player mean waaahhhah” Playing people of our own skill is not the complaint at all I have no problem playing players of my own skill, I don’t want to stomp the trials playlist into the ground Buuuuuuut the flawless mm system is not the answer I went flawless on Friday, for the rest of the weekend, my friends and clan don’t want to play with me, can’t play with me, all because of the flawless mm I want the flawless title, that means I need to go flawless many times, I have to carry people who have never gone flawless Those things are near impossible when every game is sweaty as all hell And then there’s the idea that when you, the average player goes flawless of the back of this mm system will then be thrown into the sweat pool and get stomped yet again The whole thing makes no sense
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100% this. They want to try and say they don't want to sweat every game or the increase amount of lag etc. Truth is they just want to look good on their streams and channel by pubstomping on nobodies to fill their ego.
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[quote]All the streamers and top players went nuts over matchmaking today because they had to face other flawless and not just roflstomp blueberries. These are the same people who cry about sbmm and this is why they dont want to face people the same skill as them[/quote] Preach. Bump
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5 답변What they’re doing is shitty. Real shitty. But when you think about it, why would someone willingly make their experience more challenging for no better rewards. If Bungie gave players in the flawless pool a chance at different weapons or something they’d have a reason not to get to 6 and reset.
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8 답변작성자: X-LoganX 9/18/2021 11:45:13 PMThe hypocrisy and elitism is real. They simply don't want to play their peers. Bungie has created and maintained an environment of toxic elitism for years and never really acknowledged it. Edit: "the play" > "to play"
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Yhea,we always knew it was the case... It was always the "top" player not wanting SBMM because they can easily stomp people in Quickplay and make a video on how insane this gun is.... I haven't cared much for Destiny PvP in a long time I do it for the pinnacle and when that done i only do it for challenges / weekly dust There is way too much issues with it to be playable,they would need to completely rework it....but after the d1 to D2 transition I kinda lost hope of getting a fun PvP even if we get D3
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Bungie makes changes every season to try and help the whole player base , but if something isn’t going right for the streamers/YouTubers they will bombard bungie to the point where they threaten to ditch Destiny 2 altogether if they don’t adhere to there wants. They get what they want all the time. It sucks but that’s the way bungie thinks.
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Well tbf, the main reason they are going nuts isn't just the roflstomp part. Remember, in order to 'farm' rolls for the adept weapon you have to go flawless (which isn't the issue 1st time) but then either hope you get that 1 shot at the adept for the week being the 'god roll' or start farming wins in the post flawless matches. Here is the issue: The moment your card becomes 'flawed' regardless if you went to the light house in those post 7 win matches you basically have lost anyway to farm for the adept weapon for the week outside of dumping an insane amount of resources for one pull before playing for 7 wins again. Now players are getting all flawless teamstacks once they hit the flawless queue for the rest of the week. This isn't just an issue that streamers are complaining about, its everyone who goes flawless average to above average players as well complaining because you basically can't play Trials anymore once you go flawless because the extreme top 1% players suffocate and kill any chance to have a resonable amount of wins before getting a flawed card and making another flawless run on other characters impossible. The fix is simple: 1) Make it character based on getting in the flawless pools or have it card based if your card is flawless you are in the flawless pool. 2) Once you go flawless, until you reset your card, it can no longer become 'flawed' therefore there is no good reason for a player to reset their card as now they can play as much as they want farming for a god roll adept for the weekend and stay in the flawless pool. So what if you lose? It would be far more efficient to just keep playing matches in that pool instead of resetting and doing another flawless run again.
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1 답변[quote]All the streamers and top players went nuts over matchmaking today because they had to face other flawless and not just roflstomp blueberries. These are the same people who cry about sbmm and this is why they dont want to face people the same skill as them[/quote] When streamers complain its difficult to do carries, that just brightens my day.
