Look at my game history I literally have 5 bronze tier players on my team at all times is it because of my 3.2 kd? Yes kids a real 3.2 kd not kda. And look at the opposing team at least 3 or 4 are diamond players like 2400 points which is average but to my bronze Bobby’s on my team they don’t have a chance. This game is garbage.

Don’t disagree, but I could probably accept blowouts if it wasn’t always happening on the same five maps we’ve had for 2years. If the game format had more content and more play options I could probably put up with the crudely put together matchmaking. I’ve said this before but I would like to see the option in Crucible to have access to all weapons and perks in the game - just for Crucible quick play. Us non competitive solo players could then have a bash with everything in the game (all exotics also - armour and weapons). This is a “game”, it’s supposed to be fun, make Crucible “more” fun.

Personally I think it's mostly CBMM, but it's definitely designed to punish higher skilled players for solo queuing. They'll take a single halfway decently skilled player and use them to fill in matches against 3-6 stack teams with communication and expect you to give your team of sub 1 KD blueberries a fighting chance. And with the diminishing PvP playerbase, the amount of lag is starting to increase. I've been trying to finish my golf ball in Clash and even winning is frustrating. I don't think I've seen a match without being pitted against at least a 3 man or a couple of two man fireteams on the same side. I don't feel like I'm earning anything. I feel like I'm suffering until Bungie decides I've had enough and throws me a bone.

Ran into 4-5 6 stacks with multiple new players on my team. Explain how you expect new players to "Get Better" at PvP when it's nothing but a blowout/quick match/and all around a poor experience. Sandbox needs to step it up or step the PvP down.

id rather see all the cheaters banned first

Ill say the last month has been absolutely terrible. I mean i never supported a freelance quickplay mode..but now I do. Nothing worse than loading into trials rusher matches of 5 and 6 stacks. Meh. Whatever. The game is hollow version of itself at this point..better yet a caricature. One more season and my investment since the original beta be damned...bungie gave up..i may as well too.

Also disappointed about the fact they didnt say anything about PvP in last TWAB maybe they will say it next stream. If not I gonna go to Splitgate, this game is so fking nice. Basically Halo + Portals!

I only play because Bungie forces the issue with making crucible mandatory for pretty much ALL exotic catalyst's. And we played tonight. My clan is PvE. We all have like .5 or lower. All teams we played just annihilated us. Typical scores were 98 them 20 us. At one point we basically gave up, ran to one flag and just emoted until they got enough kills for it to be over. We hate it. The "we are breaking teams up to find a better match" is a joke. Do the PvE players that are good really like us in their game? Do they enjoy easy prey? Maybe that is Bungie's goal? We are just meat for the pups? And then gambit........ "It doesn't matter if you win of lose" not true. At least when you are on your legend valor rank you don't HAVE to win to get to it. Gambit you do and let me tell you it sucks. So I hate anything PvP at all and gambit it. Honestly if the first team has their primevil up they shouldn't be able to invade until the other team does. I men the number of 100 to zero games I've been in are a joke....... Unbalanced....... we had one game today where the 4th was just spinning in a circle the whole game. I almost had him reported but didn't get to click the AFK before it sent us to the next game :-( My wish: we could just be able to get the good weapons in PvE and enjoy our PvE game without having to bother with PvP. I'm sorry Bungie but most PvE players don't want to play PvP, I wish they would just stop making us to get some good weapons :-(

Bungie would need to introduce Freelance into Crucible, it should help reduce the 6 stack / Blowout.

The New Gen Consoles are the extra problems, we got in the last year. PS4 doesn't stand a chance against PS5. As if Destiny PvP wasn't bad enough, before.