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7/8/2021 7:29:39 PM
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Moon reissues need to be re-reissued Bungie.
Plenty of the moon weapons have solid perk pools, notable the HC and MG. But tranquility has one of the worst perk pools I’ve ever seen and and arc logic not having anything like subsistence to pair with frenzy or any legitimate stability perks to help it in pvp is very disappointing to see. The moon weapons looked and sounded truly unique when they were released and it’s hard to justify getting them again bc they’re pretty much worst in class with the perks they’ve been given.
Now is it bc free to play players have access to these guns is why they’re for the most part underwhelming? Who knows but as plenty have already pointed out this big reissuing of weapons has not been properly done and in fact made them as a whole much worse then they originally were. Please fix this mistake bungie
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8 답변The reissues are out? Could've fooled me. 2 Pits, 3 Ascendant Challenges, 3 Blind Well bounties and 4 Bmind Well Heroic completions and not 1 new weapon roll. Can we get a "new" Moon weapon from the Lecturn?
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1 답변작성자: Artisan 7/10/2021 9:25:40 PMA few promoters have joined the panning of this wholesale roll-trashing: Paul Tassi on it https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cLvPUIYhqDA Aztecross on poor rolls https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LlA2OIEie1A Ehroar on ruining the weapons https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LCK4groLzKw What were they thinking? In celebration of Bungie Day we have gutted out all the Moon weapons!? Enjoy!?? Tranquility, in particular, was one I was most looking forward to...and it's absolutely trashed.
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2 답변작성자: Kiro - 13 7/10/2021 1:47:23 AMThey did murder a few of the guns with the perk options. Love & Death and Tranquility got hit particularly hard. I was gonna farm these guns, then checked out the perks and yea. Its not a matter of if i value the time investment realtive to how useful they are. they are straight ass and i own weapons that are far superior of the same arc type. Zero value in them. #reissues_the_re-reissues
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2 답변I spent 3 hours farming Loud Lullabys before I thought to check what the possible rolls were; I mean it's not like Bungie would change them when they said they were reissuing them with a few added perks, right? Where the -blam!- is my Explosive Payload? Why is it gone? I've been waiting for a replacement for my current True Prophecy that I can reliably get FOR 3 SEASONS NOW. The current kinetic HC pool is just sad, and what could have been a good (re)addition to it has been nerfed to pointlesness.
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작성자: TheShadow 7/9/2021 2:14:01 AMI know you are not going to like what I'm about to say but it's the truth. Everything in this game especially changes as this are calculated. What Bungie did is what they planned for and any changes they will do are because of what they want, not what you or anyone would hope for. It's about what works for them, never what works for the player base.
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2 답변“Any legitimate stability perks to help it in pvp” did you actually check the rolls ? You can have Surplus/elemental on an Auto.Rifle. The thing will not move if you use void and don’t to use abilities.
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Honestly the only thing that i actually got to like is a loud lullaby with frenzy, because it negates the bad reload speed and handling of the gun. Only two guns really benefitted from this reissue and that is tigerspite and a fine memorial. The rest are either at best a sidegrade (most of which werent great to begin with) or considerably worse than the original.
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Definitely. I made a post about this the day of release because I was excited to get another kinetic sniper with snapshot.... got a couple shitty rolls and checked light.gg to find out that they took EVERYTHING good about this gun and every other gun except loud lullaby. Shame...
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2 답변Your a legend for acknowledging that Tranquility is basically the Worst Weapon out of the reissued Moon Weapons... I mean like atm we only have like 3 kinetic Snipers that can roll with Snapshot that are actually worth using, but ImO the Tranquility would have made a perfect addition to that very shot list of Kinetic Snipers. Seems like Bungie managed to butcher even this.
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Completely agree. I will discuss below some examples of what I am unhappy with and what I would do to fix them. Arc Logic: They removed Subsistence, now that it's good. They removed Rampage (which would pair fantastically with Subsistence and Heating Up). The only two damage-boosting perks are now Frenzy -which is good for PvE but useless for PvP- and Surrounded, which is an objectively terrible perk. My suggestions would be to replace Slideways with Subsistence, Sympathetic Arsenal with Rampage and Elemental Capacitor with Kill Clip. One Small Step: If you thought what they did with Arc Logic was bad, wait 'til you get a load of this one. They got rid of Threat Detector/Auto-Loading/Quickdraw on the first column, and One-Two Punch/Hip-Fire Grip/Snapshot/Opening Shot in the second. Now there is not a single perk in this weapon that is interesting. Bring back all these old perks I have mentioned. Tranquility: The worst re-issue of them all. As above, just bring back the old perks, please. Every Waking Moment: Subsistence/Zen Moment/Outlaw and Dynamic Sway/Swash/Kill Clip... GONE. They replaced Demolitionist with Adrenaline Junkie and Kill Clip with Multi-Kill Clip, essentially downgrades for both these perks. Get rid of Firmly Planted and put in Overflow. Get rid of Elemental Capacitor and put in Swashbuckler. Night Terror: A sword with Unrelenting? Absolutely not. Bring back Whirlwind Blade. Obviously, Bungie are free to do what they want but so am I. As it stands right now, I am not farming a single Moon weapon, not even the Hand Cannon, as I have a Crimil's Dagger with Truesight, Accurized, Rangefinder, Kill Clip and Range masterwork.
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4 답변This is beyond Insolence . They admitted sunsetting was a mistake but still didn't give us back our weapons that we grinded for years . Now they are shameless enough to let us grind them again ? What for ? Dreaming city weapon perks are absolute trash . I have my god rolls still sitting in my vault all masterworked but unusable . Insolent shameless company !
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I was pretty excited to give tranquility another try. I had a God pvp roll for it before sunsetting. Then I came to find out that all of the good perks for the weapon are just straight up gone. I dont think there's a single good perk combination for it, or even just a single good perk that I would want on the 3rd or 4th column. Extremely disappointing.
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Agree. Not even fully re- reissue them, just adding a couple of good perks in their pools would suffice. I remember when tranquility had an identity of being a dps sniper with firing line, now it doesn't even have a place in either pvp nor pve
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1 답변Do people not remember the original perk pools were bad and most of them. About half of the weapons had one MAYBE two solid drops. If anything bungie keeps pushing out consistently useless perk pools. It’s better than things like the gambit 120 with such a big pool that plenty of good rolls are possible but you’ll never get one.
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작성자: Wreckology 7/9/2021 6:28:47 PMI agree 100%, there is absolutely no reason anyone would ever want to use tranquility, it doesn't have a single good roll. Arc logic isn't as bad, but it's definitely not good. The only roll I really see as being all that great is Wellspring with either FF or Surplus. Also I'm really sad to see what they did to Every Waking Moment. I mean it's not terrible, but that was one of my favorite SMG's before. I used to always run that thing on my Warlock with Nazarecs. Now it has no real reload perks, unless you count ambitious assassin which probably is what I'll go for. Then for its main perkI personally don't like multi-kill-clip because I find it too difficult to get the full damage. This season dragonfly will be good because of the mod, but that's only good for a couple more weeks. Wellspring will go great with a Nazarecs Sin build but again, the lack of a reload perk sucks, especially since drop-mag is no longer a thing.
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9 답변If i get one more sympathetic arsenal on an arc logic i am going to shit out a baby fallen.
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1 답변Agreed. Tranquility looks great and sounds amazing, but this new version is absolutely terrible. For a weapon that used to have great perks like No Distractions and Firing Line (the only kinetic with that perk I believe), this re-release addition isn't different or updated, it's just worse. Frenzy is the only damage perk? For a sniper? They absolutely gutted this weapon. The AR and SMG aren't much better off. I was really looking forward to reclaiming these weapons because they're very unique aesthetically, but these perk pools just make them awful weapons that I can't justify using in PvP or PvE.
