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작성자: RainDragon 6/6/2021 6:31:32 PM
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You're -blam!-ing us solo players.

Presage, for example. If you die in the mob swarm after the compactor, you spawn back in the compactor in its pre-solved state... but it's now a darkness zone. Meaning you restart your run. Legendary content? Never done it. Because I can't. Because champions restrict me to idiotic weapon combinations and there is no upside. I can't win anyway, so there goes every new exotic past Forsaken. Raids? Nope. Every "guided game" sets me up with four mutes and an asshole, or the inverse. Never been past the first encounter of any raid. Fireteams on the app? Let me paint you a picture: it's day two of the VOG release and every thread is "Atheon CP, know every minutiae of every cheese and twist and have an exotic from a different raid and never die at any point." Let alone the "solution" to getting retired raid exotics being tied to doing other raids. I can't even up difficulty on nightfall because burns no longer exist. Burns are what made nightfall with randoms possible, and (and this is the real problem with the game as it is now) they just are. Not. Fun. Momentum control is fun. Banner is because it's stupid but you get interesting objectives. Strikes are because there are modifiers on there that actually DON'T -blam!- you. Which is apparently a lost art at modern bungie. I wouldn't be saying any of this if I didn't like the game. I -blam!-ing love this game. But you're off track with these champions -blam!-ing EVERYWHERE and tying exotics to not just being a random drop, but a random drop tied to a -blam!-ing lost sector of all things set up specifically to be as attrition-y and lame as possible. I get it. You dig the idea of champions. The idea of them is fine. The execution is just idiotic. You want to tie something in there that could be useful? Exotics. Exotics take down their protection. Or just having a mod that makes primary or special ammo the thing to use. I'm off to go look through fireteams again to see if there's anything about running a raid where it isn't assumed I spent four hours watching videos to study encounters. Because who doesn't love homework.

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  • You're complaining that a multiplayer game isnt meant to be played solo?

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  • Just get some friends forehead...

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  • Might need some cheese for all that whine. 🤣

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    • Sounds like you problem dawg. I do have some good news though, there is a cheese for presage to telaport past hanger room. All you gotta do is [spoiler]GIT GUD[/spoiler]

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    • [quote]Presage, for example. If you die in the mob swarm after the compactor, you spawn back in the compactor in its pre-solved state... but it's now a darkness zone. Meaning you restart your run.[/quote] Solution: don’t die. It’s a lot easier than you think: bring a Sunshot or Graviton Lance and the Energy Accelerant mod. I still giggle at the chain explosions. [quote]Legendary content? Never done it. Because I can't. Because champions restrict me to idiotic weapon combinations and there is no upside. I can't win anyway, so there goes every new exotic past Forsaken.[/quote] I’ll be the first to admit these aren’t fun. They are far from impossible however. You just gotta find the load out that speaks to you. [quote]Raids? Nope. Every "guided game" sets me up with four mutes and an asshole, or the inverse. Never been past the first encounter of any raid. Fireteams on the app? Let me paint you a picture: it's day two of the VOG release and every thread is "Atheon CP, know every minutiae of every cheese and twist and have an exotic from a different raid and never die at any point." Let alone the "solution" to getting retired raid exotics being tied to doing other raids.[/quote] In D1 I sherpa’d raids. In D2... let’s just say a medical issue made my mentality a bit different. I struggle to socialize in anything and prefer ‘no mic’ content. Not Bungie’s fault, nor mine. It’s just how life is for me right now. That being said: the majority of ‘kwtftd’ LFG posts are lazy, chicken shit, incompetent dpser’s who need strong, competent leadership to take the weight off their backs so they can push buttons to get shinys. This isn’t a Destiny thing, this is a HUMANITY thing and I’ve played MMOs and large scale shooters since 1998. Every game has them. The reason you run into them so much is obvious: the screech the loudest and beat their chests to impress others in effort to disguise their own social fallacies behind false bravado. Anyone insulted by that, come at me. [quote]I can't even up difficulty on nightfall because burns no longer exist. Burns are what made nightfall with randoms possible, and (and this is the real problem with the game as it is now) they just are. Not. Fun.[/quote] D1 Nightfalls in their original states were unforgiving ptsd inducing stress machines. They were top tier difficulty, above and beyond raiding. But they didn’t have time limits which made patience you’re best weapon. Now they are just slightly harder strikes at best. They’ve always been a teamwork thing. [quote]Momentum control is fun. Banner is because it's stupid but you get interesting objectives. Strikes are because there are modifiers on there that actually DON'T -blam!- you. Which is apparently a lost art at modern bungie.[/quote] The strike added last season is what a strike should be: interesting, multiple phase/objective fights with a tough-as-nails boss at the end you can’t burn in a few seconds. If anything strike bosses should have 5-10 times more hps. Did you know the Warden Servitor actually has multiple phases with different adds? Neither did anyone else. [quote]I wouldn't be saying any of this if I didn't like the game. I -blam!-ing love this game. But you're off track with these champions -blam!-ing EVERYWHERE and tying exotics to not just being a random drop, but a random drop tied to a -blam!-ing lost sector of all things set up specifically to be as attrition-y and lame as possible.[/quote] There’s only.. what? 2 years left? May as well stick with it. But there’s an absolute certainty made all-too clear: Bungie was only half of what made Destiny. The resources afforded to them like Vicarious Visions did the heavy lifting. Just browsing collections you can see where that support drops off. [quote]I get it. You dig the idea of champions. The idea of them is fine. The execution is just idiotic. You want to tie something in there that could be useful? Exotics. Exotics take down their protection. Or just having a mod that makes primary or special ammo the thing to use.[/quote] Umm... such things exist? [quote]I'm off to go look through fireteams again to see if there's anything about running a raid where it isn't assumed I spent four hours watching videos to study encounters. Because who doesn't love homework.[/quote] Homework is a part of any object based group activity like raids. Sorry, but that’s the way it’s been for decades.

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      • Bruh you not Kirito, chill out. 😂😂 you solo players crack me up

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      • That's an awful lot of text when the short way to say all of this is just posting "I'm trash at the game and need to learn how to get good"

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      • Get good?

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      • This has to be a troll post ... you're complaining the game is too hard and the examp[le you give is not being able to complete a legendary lost sector - which was built very specifically for the purpose of solo'ing.

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        • Honestly your an Xbox Player. Use LFG its built into the console. I've helped many people finish off their Dead Mans Tale. Nightfall's you don't need a burn. Simply socket in the mods you need to defeat the champions and move on. You can also LFG that and get 100K done at the same time. Friday I wanted to run a Deep Stone Crypt because I'm a returning player. I posted up I needed a guide to help me out. 5minutes later I'm opening up the first chest. No offense complaining because you can't get things done is a poor excuse when there are 1000's of others using LFG and getting things done.

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          • [quote]Presage, for example. If you die in the mob swarm after the compactor, you spawn back in the compactor in its pre-solved state... but it's now a darkness zone. Meaning you restart your run. Legendary content? Never done it. Because I can't. Because champions restrict me to idiotic weapon combinations and there is no upside. I can't win anyway, so there goes every new exotic past Forsaken. Raids? Nope. Every "guided game" sets me up with four mutes and an asshole, or the inverse. Never been past the first encounter of any raid. Fireteams on the app? Let me paint you a picture: it's day two of the VOG release and every thread is "Atheon CP, know every minutiae of every cheese and twist and have an exotic from a different raid and never die at any point." Let alone the "solution" to getting retired raid exotics being tied to doing other raids. I can't even up difficulty on nightfall because burns no longer exist. Burns are what made nightfall with randoms possible, and (and this is the real problem with the game as it is now) they just are. Not. Fun. Momentum control is fun. Banner is because it's stupid but you get interesting objectives. Strikes are because there are modifiers on there that actually DON'T -blam!- you. Which is apparently a lost art at modern bungie. I wouldn't be saying any of this if I didn't like the game. I -blam!-ing love this game. But you're off track with these champions -blam!-ing EVERYWHERE and tying exotics to not just being a random drop, but a random drop tied to a -blam!-ing lost sector of all things set up specifically to be as attrition-y and lame as possible. I get it. You dig the idea of champions. The idea of them is fine. The execution is just idiotic. You want to tie something in there that could be useful? Exotics. Exotics take down their protection. Or just having a mod that makes primary or special ammo the thing to use. I'm off to go look through fireteams again to see if there's anything about running a raid where it isn't assumed I spent four hours watching videos to study encounters. Because who doesn't love homework.[/quote] I did legendary lost sector solo just fine. In fact, I did the master solo just fine. I just needed to perfect my build just enough and I was good to go. I cleared it on my Titan, of which I never used Titan before that lost sector. Presage also is not hard solo. I did that the day it came out. Bungie has repeatedly stated that they reward people who can build craft pretty well. Meaning if you can actually put together a good build, you should do just fine. Granted you have to put in the work. I don't raid all too often, but I do raid with my clan. And before that when I did do raids or wanted to I just use LFG on the app like a sane person. Some people are toxic, some people are not. Most people are not toxic. If you are new just say so. And there are plenty of videos that are not that long that can tell you about the vault. Honestly it just sounds like to me you either have some sort of anxiety towards talking to strangers, of which I hope you either see somebody or deal with it, or you just lazy. If you can't get past that, then I'm sorry you will not be doing the higher to your content that requires teamwork. This is a massively multiplayer game. There are plenty of things you can do solo, but there are some things that you need to have a rate group for. And final fantasy 14, you don't challenge the savages by yourself. You do it with a coordinated team, and you beat your face in until you guys understand the mechanics. So sorry. Thems the facts

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          • I solo presage every week I solo legendary lost sectors every week I solo 95 percent of the pinnacle drop sources every week And I get to max level every season, by myself If you're playing a multiplayer game solo, be prepared for some challenges. That's the point

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            • For one, none of the content you named is hard. Two, it is a multi-player game. Make friends. Three, you think people on LFG want to spend twice as much time (or more) in the raid teaching you everything and a bunch of failed runs while you make mistakes? The videos are there. Watch them. The community shouldn't be your teacher when you can watch a 15 minute video instead of making 5 other people spend 2 extra hours of their day because you can't be bothered to learn before diving in. I get it if you haven't run the raid before, everyone has to start somewhere. But I also believe it is on you to at least have a rough idea of what to do on each encounter by now thanks to YouTube guides. I don't mind taking new people through raids for their first clears. But I do mind wasting hours of my day. On a raid that has been around for 7 years. Slight changes in D2 VoG, but you should still know what to expect in general. Problems you can fix on your own, but won't. It is not Bungie's fault here. It is yours. The game is simply not meant to be played solo. Are there problems with the game that are Bungie's? Absolutely. Not this one though. This is a YOU problem.

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              • There's no such thing as solo players in this game.

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                • Im a solo player and i do everything pve/pvp Its not hard to do learn to socialize better

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                  • Lost sectors need a MASSIVE nerf!

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                    • Being a solo player is a choice. Perhaps you should join a clan or make some friends so you can do activities with other people instead of whining on the forum.

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                        Just stay alive.

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                      • Got it. #PleaseMakeThisGameEasierForMe

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                        • Brah LFG. I've helped plenty of folks through dungeons , just make a post , ask for help .

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                        • This is a serious git gud post

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                          • Was this about champions? Or matchmaking? Or difficulty? Or what? It’s incredibly hard to tell. Yeah, this game demands you play to fit a situation. I wish I could run around with triple grenade launchers all day, but that’s not practical in most content.

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                          • Don't worry tomorrow he will complain how all content doesn't have matchmaking. I give 0 craps, about solo players or players after 7 years, if you don't know what this game is and what to expect that's a you thing now. Not a Destiny,bungie thing. Oh and I still play solo 75% of the time.

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                          • [quote]Presage, for example. If you die in the mob swarm after the compactor, you spawn back in the compactor in its pre-solved state... but it's now a darkness zone. Meaning you restart your run. Legendary content? Never done it. Because I can't. Because champions restrict me to idiotic weapon combinations and there is no upside. I can't win anyway, so there goes every new exotic past Forsaken. Raids? Nope. Every "guided game" sets me up with four mutes and an asshole, or the inverse. Never been past the first encounter of any raid. Fireteams on the app? Let me paint you a picture: it's day two of the VOG release and every thread is "Atheon CP, know every minutiae of every cheese and twist and have an exotic from a different raid and never die at any point." Let alone the "solution" to getting retired raid exotics being tied to doing other raids. I can't even up difficulty on nightfall because burns no longer exist. Burns are what made nightfall with randoms possible, and (and this is the real problem with the game as it is now) they just are. Not. Fun. Momentum control is fun. Banner is because it's stupid but you get interesting objectives. Strikes are because there are modifiers on there that actually DON'T -blam!- you. Which is apparently a lost art at modern bungie. I wouldn't be saying any of this if I didn't like the game. I -blam!-ing love this game. But you're off track with these champions -blam!-ing EVERYWHERE and tying exotics to not just being a random drop, but a random drop tied to a -blam!-ing lost sector of all things set up specifically to be as attrition-y and lame as possible. I get it. You dig the idea of champions. The idea of them is fine. The execution is just idiotic. You want to tie something in there that could be useful? Exotics. Exotics take down their protection. Or just having a mod that makes primary or special ammo the thing to use. I'm off to go look through fireteams again to see if there's anything about running a raid where it isn't assumed I spent four hours watching videos to study encounters. Because who doesn't love homework.[/quote] So you’re blaming the game for being bad at it ……

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                          • RainDragon paying money for a multiplayer online RPG. Also RainDragon: [quote]You're -blam!-ing us solo players.[/quote]

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                          • You’ve literally explained why solo is harder and a skill issue. The point of multiplayer is to have more people. No shit your at a disadvantage if you run solo. Thats not Bungie punishing you, thats yourself.

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