It doesn’t even work? I get a pinnacle drop at 1310 when I have a 1311 equipped on same armour?? It’s a bad system....THAT DOESN’T EVEN WORK!

I have said before in other threads and subjects and will say again: There is no excuse that upgrades can’t drop from every activity. Leveling is a chore that we do not need. This reliance on said chore as ‘content’ needs to stop. I am extremely grateful the seasonal goalpost only moves 10 points, but upgrades some come from all activities at least once a week. All. Activities. Blind Well, every raid, strikes, nightfalls, crucible, each active seasonal activity, etc. they want us out in the world, make the world a place that has incentive.

Who is DSC??🤔

Reminds me of D1 Y1 when Crota took over from VoG and then PoE took over from both. At least the guns are relevant this time lol I'd wager that at least part of this decision is made to mollify non-raiders. God forbid pinnacle activities reward pinnacle gear, the solo's wont stand for that 😂

They have already acknowledged that the raid says it drops pinnacles but dosent already.

Ok and why are you crying? We’re getting a new raid next week that gives pinnacles. Plus we have tons of other pinnacle resources There’s a lot of things wrong with destiny but this isn’t one of them

I said it once and i’m gonna say it again no matter how much toxicity I got in my last post about it. VoG should only be for paid player! It should be either accesible because you have beyond light or the season idgaf. If Bungie wants to take spoils and pinnacles from DSC this is what should’ve been done. They’re rendering the value of paid players and slapping us in the face. Meanwhile now F2P literally get everything... and before someone says F2P players had raids in the past yes they did but those raids didn’t have pinnacle drops! The only reason you would run those raids are for the raid exotics and fun. Not for gear or weapons bc they all got sunset. Also before someone says F2P doesn’t get everything yes they do. They have access to every form of endgame content! GM Nightfalls (if they grind tf out of F2P and reach the req light level) Trials (cheaters everywhere), Iron Banner, Dungeons, and now a Raid with pinnacle rewards. Only thing they don’t have access to is stasis subclasses, exotics from previous expansions, and some destinations like the moon, and dreaming city, but let’s be real who tf even goes there anymore and who tf would pay 30 bucks for the previous expansions that only get you 2-3 useful exotics. Edit: Also technically for all previous exotics in the previous expansion yea I just realized they don’t even have to buy the expansion they can grind out a golf ball and exotic cypher from Xur and get it from the kiosk...

Another compromise I have seen is to let the non-current raids (DSC, Last Wish, Garden of Salvation) be set on a weekly rotation. Each week a different one drops pinnacles from all encounters. This would mean that there would be two raids available for pinnacles each week: whatever the newest raid is and whatever older raid is in rotation. While I would be ok with this compromise, I hate the fact that a raid that hasn’t even been out for a year (DSC) is already being shoved to the side. I’m starting to feel that Bungie is being very stingy with pinnacle power items. It feels that there are very few opportunities to earn pinnacles this week, and that those pinnacles tend to drop at or only one point above my current gear level. It’s like we’re back in season of the undying.

I’m sorry I don’t get the fuss. You can still get the weapons you want. So what if it’s not pinnacle? There’s already a replacement that goes live. They cut out the fact we have to grind 50 levels but we’re gonna complain about the pinnacle 10? The only thing I’ll give you is it kind of stinks waiting almost 2 weeks til the pinnacle replacement goes live. Probably when roadmap initially designed they figured we’d still be grinding 50 light and didn’t account for the loss when they changed that.

If every raid dropped pinnacles, we'd have +21 drops per character, per week. We already get 16 (with trials) or 18 (with iron banner) right now, not including presage which is bugged, expunge which isn't released, or any new exotic mission they release. Combine that with weapon swapping across characters and the reduction of the grind to max power to +10 levels, and there'd essentially be no grind to max. Should DSC still drop pinnacles? Yes. Should it drop them once VoG launches with its pinnacles? Probably not. Should all raids be unlocked for unlimited farming once pinnacles are removed? Yes.

While I do agree that it not offering powerful rewards is stupid...the point of the raid is the rewards itself, not just the arbitrary power you gain as a result of completing it. The fun IS the activity and the actual rewards you get for completing it. Heritage doesn't become useless and boring just because it doesn't drop at 1320, nor does it dropping below that make the raid overall useless. Garden of salvation and last wish are a little different because of how much older they are, but their rewards still hold value for those who actively seek it and THAT is the point of them still being around. "You are throttling fun and incentive just to make the power cap increase seem meaningful," except the purpose of the raid has ALWAYS been the activity and reward itself, the power is literally just a bonus incentive. You not caring about the legitimate reason the activity matters contradicts what you are saying should be fun. Grinding raids for power instead of the actual rewards is the boring part is it not? You aren't having more fun because heritage could drop at 1312 instead of 1300 are you? I'll clarify, I am NOT disagreeing with you saying that raids should offer powerful rewards, just that I find your reasoning behind the raids still being fun...ridiculous. I'm not gonna say I'd complete old raids without power incentive...but if I'm only grinding it for power that says a lot about power itself does it not? That we find activities fun only when it matters...even if it really doesn't add anything to being fun.

They just killed that raid. If you wanted EOT forget about getting it now.

Yea I was a bit upset about that when I ran it and got no pinnacles as well as only 12 spoils. Wishing I would've saved a lot more rather than using them all each week trying to get an extended mag, reconstruction, vorpal sniper.

Even Presage doesn’t offer pinnacle anymore, but Harbinger does? They are extremely selective.

I read that it will be replaced by VOG. I was looking forward to DSC raid but no pinnacle means no point.