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4/22/2021 6:02:41 PM
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Increasing shaders from 40 bright dust to 300 bright dust is blatant manipulation on Bungie's part and it's probably going to get worse.

When I read the TWAB me and my friends started talking about the shaders immediately. Our general consensus was that it seemed unnecessary and a little "greasy" (looking at you finance team), but that it was understandable. It seemed weird cause their reasoning was that shaders are now 1 time purchases, but they have been one time purchases since collections was introduced, so nothing changed. Then I remembered that just this season (season 13) Bungie buffed the amount of Bright Dust it was giving it's players, ONLY FOR THEM TO INCREASE BRIGHT DUST PRICES ONE SEASON LATER. I have always been on board with Eververse. It's a good idea that let's Bungie make a free to play game, but this is just a "-blam!- you" to consumers. It's obvious that Bungie realized that an increase in Bright Dust made it easier for people to buy an eververse set for bright dust, meaning they might only spend 15 dollars on one set instead of 30 to buy two sets. So they created a completely BS reason to increase the price of shaders in hopes that it would reduce the amount of Bright Dust people have left over, causing more people to spend 15 dollars on their silver sets. At the end of the day, it's not about the shaders. I really don't care about spending a little more imaginary money on a shader. It's about the fact that I feel like I was tricked by a company who just wanted money. And it's about the fact that this is two steps back. This is the first domino that people ignore that leads to more things increasing in price and eventually things going silver only. Thanks for reading :)

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  • 작성자: Harrowed Chaos 4/23/2021 12:32:58 PM
    Holy shit. My joke about us needing to account for BD inflation is actually a real thing now.

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  • Good ol Bungie. Always finding new and exciting ways to grind your eyeballs into dust. But more importantly, finding ways to sell you the same shit that you already paid for since D1 over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over... Game is straight doodoo and has been a long time now. Once they scrapped D3 the writing was on the wall.

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    • “We haven’t changed anything about how they unlocked but we wanted to nudge people toward buying silver more” that’s what they really meant. I’ll see those shaders in a year when they drop from bright engrams. 300 dust is stupid

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        Just FYI if no one else has said it, this is a 750% increase in price. 750% No real world company in any retail space would ever even consider a move like this. Bungie have really outdone themselves this time.

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        • “Free to play” 😂😂🤣

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          • Cmon now. Anything for money right? They’re just like Epic games and fortnite now: anything for money, even if it means giving people Spotify premium for 3 months! Or putting tik tok emoted in the game so people will buy them. -blam!-ing joke this all has become.

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          • Awww....nuttin to see here! They're just milking "ol Betsy" again, for all they can get! Grinding, silver purchases, etc.....it's a win-win! Guess who "ol Betsy" is guys.........

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            • Willing to bet they are going to decrease the amount of dust you can earn as well. Not to mention you'll more than likely have grind just to equip ornaments you've already earned/purchased.

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            • [quote] I have always been on board with Eververse. It's a good idea that let's Bungie make a free to play game, but this is just a "-blam!- you" to consumers.[/quote] And how many years has Eververse been in the game when it still was a buy to play product? And still really is.

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            • I'm still not sure why they increased the currency cost of a thing when the new system changed the overhead cost on a DIFFERENT currency. Why wasn't it 2500 glimmer increase per socket? It's like saying that it takes 10 hammer charges now to cast a tier 3 engram because we lowered the cost of mods at Banshe-44.

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              • Buffed bright dust? Nah, back when you could dismantle items for bright dust, if you played enough you could buy everything. Now, nope I’m going to pass on that armor set. But yeah 300 come on now.

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              • i was gone for two years kick my self everyday for coming back. Bungie can not even stop the cheaters but they want us to buy something lol. what a trash game i should had stay away i am down with starting a class action against bungie for taken our money and not given us what we have paid for .

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                • Also, one thing I'm unsure of is if they are going to make it so we can't use shaders from our inventory that we have been earning and collecting, but from the language of their announcement it sounds like you will only be able to use shaders repurchased with bright dust. Currently, it's very cheap to pull shaders from collections, and the new system they are implementing seems to one step forward with the transmog system, and two steps back for how the system will work when it's in the game. Now, I have a lot of bright dust that I never use really, at least not recently because the bright dust shop literally has had the same set up forever now it seems. I collect more bright dust than I use, i mean to say. Should I be forced to use that bright dust for something that I want? Yes, I earned it. It should have value, should it not? Seems to me this is just another example of reselling something to you. With extra steps. I don't like it. I'm sure many others agree. So yes, I agree, this is a QOL addition that is being added with a shoddy implementation system that has been engineered to get more out of people than it's adding to the equation. Pretty cheap if you ask me.

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                  • Why can't they go back to the D1 system? Bungie keeps putting F2P mechanics into their full price+DLC+MTX game...if you want more money, give us a good reason to give it to you.

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                  • ya know whats the main problem here ? DESTINY 2 IS NOT A FREE TO PLAY what ppl call free to play is a glorified demo especially now with Stasis, and the season pass's with cool cosmetics, you better cough up those 60 to 70 bucks a year

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                  • Look at all the events. Its easy to tell what the focus was and always will be. When is the last time an event in Destiny 2 got a real content update? Haunted Forest update? No. The Verdant Forest was scrapped after 1 run even though it was more fun that the haunted forest imo. The Dawning? The event with somehow the least actual content? Ha! No. The Guardian Games...? What do they have in common? Eververse has THE best loot. Ooh, I get to earn a sparrow if I grind enough bounties and triumphs ("not bounties") but the ornaments are all paywalled behind silver or bright dust. "Dur but you can earn bright dust", I hear defenders say, but that's not the same as playing the event and earning the event loot is it? Who cares about a new sparrow or ship after a week or two of having it when a new shiny sparrow or ship comes along (or when you can just use always on time for speed)? People want the ornaments and that's where most of if not ALL the effort is put in rather than into the event itself. Crimson Days was a simple twist on doubles in PvP and now neither will ever come back because it was scrapped. Why? Becausw we can have events that are literally nothing but the same grind as the rest of the year with banners and the "Event" label! Welcome to the Dawning, where you do exactly what you've been doing for the last 6 years and you get to press a button that *BAKES COOKIES* (wow!). What's the reward!? A weapon or two and heaps of blues, maybe a sparrow and ghost in there somewhere! Don't forget to visit eververse for the good stuff though! Welcome to the Guardian Games..... (you get the idea, right?)

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                    • Lol I think this may be the first ever post on these forums to reach 1k upvotes lmao, never seen the community so united in something

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                      • My bet is Bunjie is barely scraping by. From what I understand they were with Activision and I read that the previous game director screwed things up with this game. They could have raised the cost a little bit at a time but since they raised the cost so much they're desperate, thus they have to cut corners and raise prices.

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                        • I understand why they have eververse they need to make money someway since they're f2p, but I'd rather get more stuff by earning it not swiping my card, would just feel better :) So in turn I'm not all for eververse and 300 bright dust for a shader is a lot

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                          • NEWSFLASH: Shaders and Transmog have absolutely no effect on your gameplay. Buy it or don't. Whatever you choose though, consider another perspective. Bungie doesn't want to lose players. That's now how businesses grow and achieve goals. They figure out ways to monetize products and increase profit margins. If they can do it by increasing the price of shaders, so what? Do you even start to consider the vast sums of money they've invested into their products, and how much of it is now just given away for free with New Light? Just sayin' guys..... Chill. They're shaders and Transmog. It's not a new exotic quest for an OP rocket. It isn't changing gameplay at all. Once these things become available, how many of us are REALLY going to unlock a ton of different sets? I'm with you, I'd like to have more, but I get it man. They've got to make money. They have a Budget and it has to be met. If this is how they do it, and I get a great expansion when Witch Queen drops, awesome. Personally, I just don't care. There isn't an ornament I don't own, and I'll probably drop a few bucks on Transmog too. I understand not everyone is an adult with money to burn though. I think people are taking this whole thing just a bit too seriously though.

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                            • I’ve got no problems with the transmog process, but increasing the shader cost was ridiculous. Heck, I could even see making it 100 BD, just because that’s a pretty common amount to earn, but 300? Bogus. [spoiler]Sorry, all out of salt.[/spoiler]

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                              • This is far from the first domino. Bungie has been pulling shady tactics around eververse for pretty much all of D2. Sad thing is, they just don't care and this is clear by the fact they just keep doing it. They had a happy medium at one point when you could realistically play to earn most of the stuff in the store. There was the odd silver exclusive item and we know that system worked for them because one single ornament covered the cost of them making the entire zero hour mission. Just one single item. Now consider how many items are in the store now and at higher prices too. It worked the way it was. Players were happy enough with the system and Bungie, by thier own admission, were making money from it. Since then things have just got worse and worse, with every change being aimed at nudging players into spending more money over the cost of season passes and expansions. There was independent reports last year suggesting Bungie could have made up to $300 million just from Eververse in one year. That's not even considering season passes and expansion revenue or the brand merchandising. It's getting beyond greedy now and frankly, I'm sick of it. I've paid for every single expansion and season in this game and I'm fed up feeling like I'm paying for 70% of a game.

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                                • Seriously? Complaining about bright dust at a time like this?!? Don’t you know that Taniks has no House. He kneels before no banner, owes allegiance to no Kell. He is a murderer, and very good at what he does. I have been tracking him since Wolves broke their chains, yes? Now Taniks works for Wolf pack. But not for long.

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                                  • Bungie is basically an indie studio now without Activision. They need the eververse money to keep the lights on

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                                    • Yeah it makes absolutely no sense. It's already a one time purchase for bright dust at 40. The change has almost no reason to happen. They are charging over 7x more bright dust to buy it because it isn't going to cost 2 legendary shards to buy them from collections anymore. How is that an equivalent? Legendary shards are EXTREMELY abundant. It has almost never been an issue. Even my my dad, who plays this game extremely casually, has over 3k shards. The asking price of 300 bright dust is nowhere near the very low price of 2 shards. It's pretty outrageous. If they upped it to 100, then fine I get it, but 300? Just no man.

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                                      • [quote]by a company who just wanted money[/quote] A company who wants to increase their earnings. Disgusting.

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