Wait til next season when the increase will only be 10 PL. Pinnacle options will more than likely shrink to near zero. So the grind will be the same if not worse.

Doing a portion of weekly pinnacle and powerful rewards each week can be done easily and you don't even fall behind almost anywhere if you put 5 hours instead of 50 hours per week into this game. I don't understand the term "power leveling" if it just reqiures you to play the game on a casual base.

Ok drama queen. Season just started and my titan hit base level 1300 with no grinding just playing what I wanted. Sell ur soul? Oh man Lmfaoooooooo

The grind isn't the issue it's the fact that power means nothing except as a negative or a gate block.

I’ve said this before but I don’t even feel like leveling one guardian let alone three. For a few years now I’ve complained about the resources (and the layered resources) you need in order to level or buy stuff. Absolutely still hate spider. Some of ts has no use at all than to make you run a loop. Add in sunset, the slow leveling, and level increases every three months? I’m a super casual player now. I grind exotic quests and play the new strikes and stop playing until the next exotic. Forsaken didn’t do it right at first, but right when the system felt close to perfect during forsaken bungie [b]fuc[/b]ked it all up when SK released. There’s a good system, they just don’t care to bring it back or....idk, can’t find the balance. I miss d1 where I’d max out one guardian, share loot with the alts. Then I could just focus finishing the campaign on my alts, and grind for god rolls and loot I wanted. I can’t personally remember anyone complaining about that....tho people did -blam!- about running out of stuff to do, but that’s on you as player..not bungie. I hate hate feeling like they’re micromanage my time in the game. I’ll admit there’s a bit more freedom right now, but The micromanaging is very noticeable imo. No one has to agree.

Got to 310 in a week

This is one aspect of the game I am completely over with. It's one thing to have a leveling system in any game, but in Destiny, it isn't a leveling system. We're not leveling up to become stronger. We're leveling up to reduce our weakness. Every area in Destiny has a bottom line, and we can never go above it. We can only be even with it. At the start of every expansion and season, we're put below this line, putting us at a disadvantage, and then we have to work back up to it. Another HUGE problem is that ALL of your gear is put below the line. It's not one thing to hit the power cap to finally be able to comfortably do a heroic lost sector. You need to make sure the loadout that you want is also up to that power cap. Maybe you forgot to upgrade Anarchy and you don't have any spare heavy weapons to infuse when you WANT to play the activity. It's a horrible feeling. Or maybe you have that creative loadout in mind, but it involves weapons or exotics you just haven't touched in a while, and now you have to farm around to get blues to infuse because you don't have any in that moment. It's just a waste of time. As it is currently, Destiny would be better off not having a leveling system. It honestly would. Just be a regular shooter with difficulty levels. The Presage mission was a great example of how this works. Everyone was above the recommended light, but yet it scaled to us regardless. What the flip? At that point, it's not power. It's just an arbitrary difficulty setting like "Normal." So, with that in mind, get rid of power, and every activity in the game is set to "Normal" difficulty. It allows players to only have to focus on loot, because power grinding sucks and is such a bad experience in this game.

I can see the grind being there if power meant something in this game. Destiny use to about that to an extent, but D2 Bungie just wants players to grind and it shouldn't be just about that. VoG is being brought over and one of the things that has me concerned is how they have kept us weak. So when it comes to the Templar how we're out in the open that and champions is going to be interesting to say the least to see how things are going to play out.

Especially since sunsetting happens, there is no reason to put forth the effort to to get stuff that will be useless in a few months.

Leveling isn't bad. The problem is that this game has a leveling system that is INCREDIBLY disrespectful to player time investment....by design. The progression system is RNG based, rather than EXP based. So once you hit the Milestone system, you are effectively GAMBLING with your time, and hoping the game will spit out something that will progress your character. Otherwise you've wasted your time. The goal being not to reward you for your time....but to WASTE it so that Bungie can limit how fast you progress each week...and keep you coming back for as long as possible before you reach level cap. Why? Because the game can't generate enough loot to keep you coming back chasing after cool loot items like well-designed loot games can do.

Grinding for a pointless number every season is what bungie considers content. The sad reality now.