Their data is what they use, because it proves what they want to believe. They make the facts fit the perception. Not let the facts create the perception. Thus, they always 'see' what they want as a result. Never mind less than 10% of the players do any end-game content. Less than 1% consistently do end-game content frequently. Why YouTubers are leaving, etc., etc., etc. Even Mr. Fruit... a D1 fan forward, just stated he was done with D2 for the foreseeable future. He was one of first Bungie recognized fanboyz ever.

Unfortunately mate, the current Bungie is only interested in their financial gains from this game; a players feedback doesn't give them anything to be moved by. The data however, shows them how much money their hamster wheel is generating, if it wasn't generating enough money then you'd be sure to see a difference in their approach... For good or for worse is down to your opinion. If the general playerbase really were this distraught and wish for Bungie to change their current approach towards this game and your time, then you should really start learning their language in order to reflect your feedback. Which is to stop funding developers that you feel dont value the time of the playerbase. [spoiler][u]side note:[/u] I'm not saying this as a general outlook for [b]all[/b] players to stop funding them, strictly the players that claim they are not heard but still decide to fund someone that they deem to devalue their time and efforts. If you like Bungie's current approach then thats fine, everyone is entitled to support companies they feel are worth their investment of time and money. [/spoiler] Or just play something else, personally i haven't really found much interest to go on Destiny lately unless there's something to do, which there isn't really much right now until Iron Banner arrives. It's the only game mode i like these days thanks to Freelance. [spoiler]This is all just my opinion though.[/spoiler]

Playerbase: "Cheating is rampant on PC, do something!!" Bungie: "Understood. Enabling crossplay." All jokes aside, they better not pull a CoD and force you to enable crossplay to play certain modes. Better yet, don't introduce crossplay.

Bro cross play will be the nail on the coffin don't you worry. I laugh now just thinking about it

If only they playtested the game properly

When they listen to their player base, all they hear is, "REEEEEEEE!"

Dude, it's at the point after all these years that they have lied so much that I believe some of them actually belive their own lies. The false promises have gotten out of control and now we see the real reason most of the actual talented people that cared about the game left this company. What did they do before Activision left? Sign a $100 million contract with NetEase a mobile game company. That right there should tell you how much they want to even hear what the player base says. As long as their top streamers are feeding them new players or keeping their followers around, things will never change and the new light system made things a hell of a lot worse off for the player base.

From the last TWAB “Submachine Guns are largely outclassed by Auto Rifles at medium range, and by Sidearms at short range, with player feedback often mentioning how hard they are to control. To address this feedback, we’re introducing the following change: “ That sounds like they’re listening to player feedback. And this isn’t the only example to be found over the years of Destiny 2. Just because they don’t always act Immediately to your feedback or even implement changes you want doesn’t mean they don’t listen to player feedback. They pay attention to both feedback and data. Sometimes they need to use data, because in many cases certain weapon archetypes or subclass trees are not going to have people championing for them loudly enough. But when they see nobody is using something they have in the past made adjustments to bring them up to level with the current meta.

Fusions use rate is low -Buffs all fusions despite every other fusion but high impacts and exotics being trash and not properly buffing each fusion so they each have a purpose

Thank you Paul Tassi

If they even listened to their data they'd have changed shit like shotguns in PvP a long while ago, added more PvP maps and strikes, not sunset everything at once, buff some weapons that badly need it, etc. They seem to be just doing whatever right now with no semblance of an actual plan.

I'm a financial analyst, so I definitely bias towards listening to data. But, I think what we're seeing is Bungie bowing to a budget, not the data. Creating maps (both PvP and strikes) takes a ton of work, they've all but stopped making them. New weapon models take some time too, we're seeing one or two new sets and the rest is recycled. Triumphs, challenges, LL grind, and to an extent recycling old raids/strikes. Those are all cheap. This is all Bungie trying to give us content for little cost. Either they're bloated and top-heavy on management and staff and/or they're ancient engine just makes everything cost way more to make than it should; or, they're just paying the bills at the Bungie players' expense while they develop the new IPs. (their grand vision is a multi-content launch in 2025 from what I remember)

They have been taking notice of streamers and youtubers since Destiny 2 day 1 and most of Destiny 1.

I love this game but.. there is nothing to do, and nothing worth obtaining anymore.

Reminds me of the ice cream sales and polio cases in the 1950s...just because there is correlation, does not mean there is causation.