These posts are pathetic I didn’t even read it and I know it’s all just sad sad sad whine whine whine. Grow up go play another game.

There is no way to make grinding old content the same weapons over and over interesting. Development is hard. Bungie already has our money. No more preorders. No more cash shop. Play free.

I would argue that much of what you’re pointing out comes down to a matter of perspective. Essentially it’s two different narratives, Bungie’s viewpoint versus the Forum Community’s viewpoint. Neither side seems fully capable of grasping what the other thinks, wants, intends, etc., which I believe is the root of our problems here. Yes, Bungie has been consistently falling short of community expectations when you read these forums. Yes, sunsetting is a very unpopular decision. Yes, there seems to be less “bang for your buck” with each subsequent expansion. All that said however, I still maintain that Bungie simply cannot be [i]purposefully[/i] delivering poor quality content. [spoiler]I recognize that the previous sentence sounds like Bungie defense, which typically means you get immediately ignored, however that’s not my intent. Hear me out.[/spoiler] If you had created something you thought was good, maybe a piece of art or something, and put it on public display for an auction, you typically wouldn’t do that unless you thought it was a quality piece. Imagine then that you got feedback from two different people... The first person says that you’re awful and talentless, that their cousin’s handicapped dog could create a better piece of artwork, that you were scamming the community by attempting to sell this garbage, and that you should go die in a hole. The second person says that they can see the effort you put into your work and, while there are some positives, your shading and perspective could use some significant work if you’re wanting to make a masterpiece. Both are critical of your work, but only one response has any real credibility. Which one would you be more likely to listen to? In case to missed it, the first critique represented the tactics employed in these forums. The simple fact is that these forums are a horribly ineffective community mouthpiece. The majority of posts here are intensely negative and consistently assume the worst possible actions and intent from Bungie, and the replies are even more toxic than the original posts. When you’re unreasonably, illogically hateful, you’re going to be ignored. Not excusing Bungie’s recent actions, simply pointing out that the way people approach Bungie in these forums makes it easy for them to ignore anything they read here because most of it lacks any common sense, decency, and credibility. Something to think about.

Are you from Startec labs, Home of the famous A.S.S.H.A.T (Anti Spin Super Hyper Advanced Translator)?

[quote]I don't mind sunsetting at all 1 million Active Players seem to Agree[/quote] King KG's return comes with a million loyal white knights

Those last two hurt. [b]Hurt.[/b]

I feel like if the forum people spent as much effort diving into different hobbies as much as they do armchairing their dev arguments, they'd be a lot better off. There's a reason the Bungie.net forums are the laughing stock of the active Destiny community.

My nephew loves to spin. The kid just can't stand still for 5 seconds. That's the truth.

Here's a couple more. This time no spins. Just truths. Truth 1: Bungie accepts Beyond Light is no Forsaken. Admits can't make Forsaken size game because did not have the same teams working on the game as when they had help from Activision. Truth 2: About the same time, their CEO comes out and admits company is working on other projects. Conclusion: On one note, they say they can't do a scale of something anymore. On another note, they are saying they are doing a lot of things besides this thing that they can't do something about anymore. Almost like bragging of their capacity to juggle other projects, and yet admitting of falling short with another. That is what you call an incongruency. Some kind of conflict of interest in their priorities. It really is bizzare and funny once you grasp the logic and the connection between these two factual information. It's weird and yet it's true. If you are wondering why the game is in this state. Just look at these 2 truths. Maybe it will give us a bit of a hint why.

This is EXACTLY how I used to read Deej's TWABs. I'm a little disappointed when people accept their words as true. But I suppose that's why marketing exists - predators only exist there is prey.