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작성자: BRAD1114 12/23/2020 3:24:17 AM
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Destiny 2 end-game is overly punishing

I'm reaching out because I am a casual player and am finding the end-game content to be overly pushing. Primarily because in my view, too much emphasis on weapon / armor mod selection, aggravating boop / splash damage / stomp mechanics, time limits in certain events, difficulty higher then actual light rating of the event, and having to make load out sacrifices. Too much emphasis on weapon and armor mods is my main gripe and all other issues mentioned above further compound it. For most of the game this is not really an issue but where they matter, not selecting the right combination will make certain content incompletable. Great example are the solo lost sectors. You really have to plan every weapon and armor mod slot carefully and will likely waste a lot of time doing trial and error to find the best combination. Add time limits into this and the game will kick you out if you can't do it fast according to bungies time standard. Not to mention getting bogged down by the high power enemies that boop you off map, stomp you into walls, and or flood the space around you with endless damage affects which drain your character quickly and kill you in your own well of radiance if on a warlock. Too much punishment; even at suggested power level is 1250 which really feels like 1280 and the 1280 is 1300 more or less. As a casual player, I really miss being able to create a load out that was largely one size fits all and didn't require expert knowledge of all the mods and the minutia of how they all work together. This move toward extensive mod use has made the game too technical and less fun. It burns players out quickly and makes them stop playing. Me personally, I just want to play the game and don't really care much about all the technicalities. I sincerely hope that this is addressed and reworked. This game shouldn't be about speed runs and make it or break it load outs. Certainly there are those who enjoy that stuff so its great they have a venue but for me; things like worlds first or worlds fastest in video games really means nothing to me so I personally prefer not being pushed toward competitiveness in what I do simply for relaxation. Destiny just isn't that serious.
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  • I pretty much use a one size fits all load out. Protective light and reactive pulse, it helps with all end game and base game content. I switch reactive pulse to lucent blade for atraks but other than that my mods never change. I agree that it was a little daunting before I knew how mods worked, and I played most of the base game without them. In reality though it doesn't take long at all to learn, just watch a 10 or 15 minute video on YouTube and then spend 10 or 15 minutes putting some mods together.

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  • If you’re a casual then stop trying to change the end game, that’s for those that invested time into having the level and gear to do the endgame 🤦‍♂️

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  • End game content is not easy and hate to say it's not fun (but there are some masochists out there that get enjoyment from this). There is no fun in being under powered or wiping a dozen times and spending 3 to 5 hours for the privilege of some descent loot (and that is even debatable). I don't know what else to say to you other than end game stuff is not for you. You must be at one with your loadout and mods to even tackle them. If you don't your experience will be bleak and futile.

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  • Solo lost sectors.... raid.....gambit... strikes....here easy version.. charged with light mods and protective light.. war mind mod with global reach... combine this with the I ikekos SMG... a slug shotty and either anarchy/lement/xeno and congrats you beat the game.. for lost sectors run surge eater and the other mod that stuns champions and you win! Easy

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    • Stomp mechanics are basically just laziness Power level is more content accessibility No matter how strong you are, you'll die to the weakest enemies and get one-shot by the powerful ones.

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    • What? You have to have a good build to do the hardest content? Well thats just unfair.

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    • Once you get used to it there really isn’t a challenge anymore. Just how fast you can do it

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    • I understand it gets pretty frustrating for newer players and guardians who are just trying to chill. But once you get used to how the season artifact mods and charged with light mods work it really isnt as complicated or overbearing as it originally seems. It doesn't have to be a contest. Just play the game how you enjoy playing it. Don't give up Guardian

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    • I like the idea of mods but in practice I feel like they missed the mark. First off I took a break shortly after shadowkeep so I missed when they introduced the warmind mods so been playing catch up and that could be affecting my opinion. The point of mods is they're supposed to augment how you play and in that they do but they also force you to play that way. I just don't find it a very interesting way to play.

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      • I did not waste any time finding my building for solo lost sector. I just used the power of Internet. Serious/honest advice to a casual player from a casual player.

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      • 작성자: Mickeman7 12/21/2020 11:33:49 PM
        Do yourself a favor and jump off the sinking ship, it's too much of a time waster for any normal person or casual player.

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      • I partially agree but only from a mod/modifier perspective. I wish the game was more about skill and accuracy than the mod game. If you run multiple roles in the raid you will spend a good of amount of time swapping mods. Your point about lost sectors is accurate. Not because of difficulty but because they make you run a bunch of guns you don’t care about and never will except to break a harpies shield in that moment. DUMB.

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      • I agree that Destiny endgame is made for certain types of players. Unfortunately, Destiny does not, and never will, have enough content to allow for the more casual, varied, and accessible endgame experience you find in other mmos. I always believed that being able to run old activities unsynced would open the end game up for more players, but with content being vaulted, this is more unlikely than ever to happen. Destiny is what it is, and that won’t change any time soon.

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      • 작성자: Swiftlock 12/21/2020 11:57:50 PM
        The hardest content in the game should require planning, strategizing and tuning your loadout. That's what makes it a challenge. It'd be dull if you could plow through everything with anything you want and little thought. Demanding strategies and specific loadouts to overcome endgame challenges is 100% good and normal. The only major problem is that some champion mods are inconsistent and don't work properly.

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      • That’s just part of the design - start the season way under level, grind to rank up, & get the good loot. By the end *most* content is approachable for the average player. Then there’s grandmaster level for the most talented & dexterous (not me!) Something for players with a wide variety of skill-levels to have fun with.

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      • Personally I find that nuance is fun, and makes the game more 3d.

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      • Wait until gm comes out

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        • 작성자: SicDireWolf 12/22/2020 11:02:20 PM
          RPG shooter hybrids may not be your thing, if you think destiny 2 endgame is punishing then man oh man try the division 2 The min maxing is a lot deeper and a single stat boost can easily make or break your build

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        • You can juat play the easy content and be just fine. In a loot based game the good stuff has to be hard to get. Also, the endgame really is not that hard.

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        • You are playing the wrong game

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        • This. All the elitist can do sidearm only to make it harder. Let regulars just kill stuff at our own pace.

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          • So I'm going to keep it simple. TO BAD.

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          • 작성자: illz 12/22/2020 10:11:23 AM
            [quote] As a casual player, I really miss being able to create a load out that was largely one size fits all and didn't require expert knowledge of all the mods and the minutia of how they all work together. Me personally, I just want to play the game and don't really care much about all the technicalities. .[/quote] You can do all of this in 99.9999% of the game. Why do you attack the 0000.1% of the END game that rewards exotics? That also becomes VERY easy with power gain. The game hands out exotics and very casual routes to max power and raids. Gm nightfalls and 1280 lost sectors require class building because they are pinnacle and highly rewarding. If you want truly brainless activities then thats the rest of the game. Destiny barely has any depth, it would be wise not to attack the 000.1% that does because without it the game becomes very sterile. It isnt seeming like its bungie with the problem here.

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            • Wait this game has a end game?

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              • called end game or fake end-game the only real end- game content are master and gm

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