[quote]Hey guys, there has been LOADS of conversation about DCV and sunsetting and I've attempted to think from a game dev point of view on why Bungie decided on this course of action. I'd really love to hear you opinions too so lets have a discussion on it :) enjoy![/quote] Nobody will ever convince me that taking my Content away that I paid for and Sunsetting the Gear I grinded hard for is a good thing. Removing Content is theft and Sunsetting is like working hard on my death star LEGO and some asshole comes up and smashes it on the ground making me have to do it all over, you really think I’m going to do that? Fùck no!

Weak! Laughable at best. One person's opinion doesn't hold any bearing when millions are playing the game. If we listen to one, we should listen to all who played. This guy is late. I don't wanna make this post longer anymore than it should be. We've all made some arguments about all of this in here. You can dig up any topic like this in these forums here and you'll have a good amount of opinions. I'll make mine short and sweet. Sunsetting is not the issue. There is no powercreep problem in the game. That's because this game is already designed to have powercreep. Everyone wants a powerful gun, and they will always find one. Hence, the issue of powercreep again. See that? This guy just said it. He doesn't want a Mountaintop 2.0, but he wants a new grenade launcher that is different. LMFAO! Different?. . . You mean powerful. But not Mountaintop. LMFAO! Hence, the issue of powercreep again. When Bungo doesn't make one, you know what they'll do?. . . They'll cry to high heavens to make them one or something like it. LMFAO!!! There is no powercreep problem in the game. It's built to have powercreep into it. LMFAO!!! And regarding what he said about Vaulting content. Then proceeds to say we're getting back D1 content and strikes. Hahahahahahaha!!! That's what making space means?. . . LMFAO! So we could play older content we've already played before?. . . Pathetic! Let's make space . . . Take down the old raids. Replace them with [i][b]older[/b][/i] raids from D1?. . . 🤔??? Bungie Logic!

I think it's fine, people need to man up.

Sunset my gear, sunset my business.

Maybe you are confused on how sunsetting in D2 is about to go down... we are not getting a once and done sunset like we had in D1, it won't even be a once a year sunset. We are about to get a seasonal sunset and it isn't just our weapons this time. Season 12 will sunset seasons 1-8 this one is going to set us all up for disappointment... Bungie doesn't have the talent or the resources to pull 400 weapons and 200 pieces of armor from usage and replace even a fraction of it without a boat load of reskins. See the new ritual sniper for example... its technically Beloved, you can still see the jewels on it under the cloth.... they quite literally just wrapped it in a scarf and will expect us to grind for it and it won't even be as good as Beloved was, guaranteed. Take Beloved from us, Repackage it, make us regrind for it. Just like Bob the Builder... reduce, reuse, recycle... except for it will be remove, reskin, reuse Then we get season 13, that sunsets all of season 9 14 sunsets all of season 10 15 sunsets all of season 11 16 sunsets all of season 12 17 sunsets all of season 13 Ect Ect. Maybe you dont have 6000 hours into this game and a vault full of masterworked armor and weapons you spent months - years acquiring? It would be alot easier to accept if it was just weapons, but armor? I don't remember the last time a piece of armor helped me out in any activity. Mods? Sure... armor? Absolutely not

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its a good thing, but people are into immediate gratification, and not thinking what's best for the long-term interests of the game. Problems with the status quo" 1. The game doesn't use dedicated servers, and can't without rebuilding the game from the ground up and/or changing engines. 2. This means that your console or PC has to shoulder the burden of running the game, running part of the game's networking, AND loading every in-game object you'll likely encounter into your machine's memory. 3. This has created a situation where the game is struggling to run on the base consoles. Load times are brutally long, and bottlenecking is frequent. PC users are blind to this because they dont' have to deal with it. Console users are often blind to how much better the game runs on PC. I play mainly on PS4 pro...and I finally had to get a SSD to run the game off of, because I just couldn't stand the loaing times any more. 4. If Bungie kept doing what they are currently doing, this game would eventually become unplayable on the current gen hardware, and probably before most people have switched to the new ones. Benefits of Vaulting content. 1. The content that is being vaulted is three years old, and essentially irrelevant to current game play. 2. Removing it from the game reduces install size, and will speed loading times. 3. Bungie is dropping lots of bread crumbs to suggest that they have (at a minimum) have given the game's network architecture and coding a major up grade. There is even a possiblity that there has been a major engine update/overhaul. 4. These changes seem to be focused on making the game's coding more efficient (and therefore file sizes smaller) and for the game to run more efficiently. 5. So another benefit of vaulting content is that it will allow these old sites to be reworked in order to be optimized for the new program structure. As well as a chance to be refreshed and given new relevance. Also---it seems----it allows for sites that were part of Destiny 1 to be given a similar treatment. So----in the long term----we will actually wind up with a LARGER game that works better than what we currently have. Which is why clinging to the status quo and fighting change really is kind of self-defeating if you actually enjoy playing this game.

I love that it's happening. Mostly because people are mad about it. They are so attached to their peashooters. The real magic happens in November, when every single one of them, saying brave and rebellious things like "Sunset my Gear, sunset my business" play Beyond Light.

sunset pvp and gambit

I fail to see what's good about retiring guns and then re-issuing the exact same guns with the exact same perks.

DCV, sure. Sunsetting gear? -blam!- no.

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