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8/9/2020 1:09:18 PM
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Destiny isn't boring because it's summer, Destiny is boring because it is well... boring.

There was a time when I would grind Destiny to no end. The game had far less content than it does now, but somehow it always felt like there was something that I WANTED to do. Now? Don't care about IB. Don't care about yet another overly tedious and lackluster Solstice event. Don't care about gear. Specific rolls. Honestly other than taking my noob friends into the Dungeon for the first time this past week(we had a blast BTW, no one had any idea of what to do, so we just went in blind), there isn't any incentive to DO anything in D2. Gear is now irrelevant(there will just be more of the same shit next season, and the season after that.) Upgrades are irrelevant(even if it made a bigger difference, there is no real point to investing in upgrades, since there will always be something slightly "better" coming). Leveling is arbitrary, has no bearing on our actual in game power. And the list goes on. The question is, why? Best feeling shooty mechanics IMO. Great looking. Great music. Bottom line the game has a lot of things going for it. But there is no depth to a game world that we have played in for 6+ years. Our Guardians are no more legend now than they were in D1. Our time invested in the game is just as meaningless now as ever. And now, with the only thing of note we actually have "accomplished" being rendered obsolete(our gear collection). WTF is the point? It's like having the ingredients for a 5 star meal, then giving them to a line cook at a fast food chain and telling them they have to make nothing but burgers and fries. And not just ANY burgers and fries. No, they have to make very limited and dumbed down food, regardless of their skill, or the ingredients they have been given. I normally would have pre-ordered by now. And yes, ultimately I may fall for the hype and end up buying Destiny 3(let's not kid ourselves here). But right now, at a time when I should be hyped, coasting through an extended season, doing anything I want at a leisurely pace. I just don't care. Why do IB again, to farm up the same gear I unlocked last time? Why keep doing the same seasonal quest, for a meaningless cut scene, and a pinnacle that doesn't really matter? The answer? I don't. Playtime is cut to almost nothing, other than with my friends. And I have no interest in Solstice at all. Not for the 3rd time. Not for the same tedious quests.. And I don't even feel "burnt out". I really just think the devs are completely lost when it comes to the game they HAVE, so they keep trying to turn it into something that it isn't.

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  • I don't see why this post is drastically over detailed. Just keep it simple, and include what's needed. This year of destiny was, year of the bounties. Year of half baked content, and last season was the worst the game has been since curse of osiris, for lessons bungie didn't learn the last few times. Was that so hard?

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    • I just love posts that are clearly people who just played the -blam!- oitta destiny and instead of just owning that, they run circles around their head pointing whatever fingers they have left at bungie as if they weren't the ones who made the game that you've only been playing for a few years. But -blam!- them.

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      • Whenever a Game starts to feel like a chore and a Full Time Job, it’s time to put it away and say FU Bungie and boycott Destiny till it becomes D1 again.

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        • 작성자: blade329 8/10/2020 10:25:13 PM
          Destiny 1 is still the better game. I never got tired of the grind there. Theoretically, loot might be more powerful in D2, but it sure as heck meant more in D1. The way D2 just buries you in loot, especially worthless blue items, takes away a lot of the excitement. Not only does this nonsensical game bury you, it still has old maintenance tools dating back to 2015. Now that they have made all the loot that you worked for irrelevant, what's the point?

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          • 작성자: BossCharacter 8/12/2020 5:04:19 PM
            You just described the definition of burn out. I’m burnt out too but it’s mainly because this game needs a serious new content injection that I am cautiously waiting for Beyond Light to bring. Not preordering(never do anyways) because there is far too much unknown for me to comfortably spend money on content unseen.

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            • My only issue is that the game can’t technically be beaten because they keep raising the LL every season.

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            • [quote]And I don't even feel "burnt out".[/quote] Yes you do. You just haven't attached that lable to what you are feeling. But the cynicism, anger and sense of pointlessness that you're feeling toward the game is classic burnout. Plus the criticisms that you are levelling at the current game have ALWAYS been issues. You just overlooked them before because you were having fun, as opposed to exhausted and frustrated. This game has always been a very good shooter, but a shallow and poorly designed RPG. This game has always been grindy. There has never been an incentive to do anything in this game (or any other loot game) other than loot, progression or triumphs. Levelling in this game has always been bad...in fact, there were times (Forever 29, post-Forsaken) when the levelling has been FAR worse than it is currently. Even your "gear collection" being rendered obsolete is NOTHING new. Between gear system reboots, vaults being blown up, and endless NERFS. Bungie has always found ways to take power away from us while leaving the ILLUSION that we got to keep our gear intact. [quote]WTF is the point?[/quote] That...is the sound of burnout. The POINT of Destiny is the point of any GAME....to have fun while you're playing it. Unless you're trying to earn your LIVING from it. So the fact is that you are either burned out....or you are a shooter gamer who just doesn't like loot-based games. I avoid reaching this point with Destiny by simply taking breaks from the game and NEVER forcing myself to play it when I'm in a head space where I won't enjoy it. And never make myself play parts of the game that I sincerely dislike. Iron Banner this week? Haven't touched it. Trials of Osiris for Solstice Glows? Not happening. Not much to do in the game right now since I have most of the loot that I want from this season? Enjoying other games. Played the Avengers beta this weekend, and enjoyed it (though they are going to have to do something to streamline that loot system. That sh!t was confusing and complicated even for me....and I've played loot games for years. Including games like The Division and Warframe.....and I could barely make sense of it.

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              • F2P trash from a greedy dev that is bankrupt of ideas, innovation and talent.

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                • The issue is destiny radically changes every 12 - 18 months. Bungie keeps shifting who they cater to. And anyone they don't cater to gets screwed over. Launch, Forsaken, Shadowkeep, and now lightfall all drastically alter the game but not in good ways. I liked the forsaken era, hated launch, didn't care about shadowkeep, and now don't really want to pay again for light fall. It's like if a restaurant changed it's menu every year. We're a burger place!! Ok cool I like burgers. Now we're a pizza place!! What? I liked your burgers. The pizza's ok I guess. Now we're a taco place!! You tacos suck I don't want this. Bring back the burgers or maybe some of the better pizzas. Now we're a sushi place!! Ok I'm done. I don't care about your restaurant anymore. Stop changing everything.

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                  • D1 in my opinion was a game I could just jump in and always have something to do. Friends or solo. D2 I am very much alone. Either people have moved, time zones are an issue, or I honestly just don't want to engage with the content and just turn any invites down. But the content and rewards just aren't there. With D1 you could make your own challenges to make it interesting. In D2 I really struggle with this. The only notable ones were getting to legend in freelance which led to getting unbroken in freelance. A really stupid one was getting 10,000 kills with an erentil. But after all of that my achievements in D2 feel very hollow compared to D1. With D1 there was more you could meaningfully invest your time into. Factions was a big one for me, I really enjoyed pledging all year round and working towards those exotic class items, shaders and ships. It could even be grinding for a gun. I remember doing endless prison of elders runs for a crows eye, which by the end of it I thought, "It's not even that great". I don't think there has been any weapon in D2 I have felt like, "ooo I need that" or "that will be fun to grind". By the time you weighed up the investment but this is the kicker, the odds on actually getting a good roll I've already jumped in the crucible. I prefered the D1 style of jumping in and either getting it or not getting it. You know where you stand and if you didn't get it you just move on to something else until reset. With D2 getting the drop but just getting pointless meaningless rolls is just disheartening. For some items which for example vendors at the end of D1 you would just wait until the right roll was there and chuck your money at them. But then when you jumped into raids and saw the weapons with fixed perks I knew what I wanted and I loved jumping in and having a go at getting it each week. It makes getting it a much more meaningful experience rather than having 50 of the same item just gathering dust or being auto sharded. Additionally the time investment for an activity was less but the experience was better. In D2 by the time the strike is over i'm exhausted and just switch over to another game. I actually logged on to D1 the other day and it was the Taniks strike. It was great fun because it was short, but challenging because I forgot how brutal the modifiers are. I even stayed on for another one. I always liked Iron Banner in D1 because I really liked the weapons and armour. Additionally different playlists made it more interesting. With D2 IB I honestly just go in to troll the stacks and just try and make the experience a little better for solos. Playing control all the time can get quite dull, some clash would be good.

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                  • This game is almost as trash as tiktok

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                    • Totally agree. And I decided to uninstall the game, and probably will never return (just browsing the forums). I even cancelled my pre-order. It is becoming boring, there is no goal, or story line to follow. It has became an empty shell. And I doubt that Bungie will even change anything, they just don't seem to care. They probably don't even read all this stuff. Go ahead, move away, and find something that is fun! God speed!

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                      • D2 is boring. Way too much grind not enough fun. Way too many mechanics for raids is not fun. Constantly getting nerfed. IB would be fun if they got rid of level advantage. I try to play but all I do is run around in the tower.

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                        • Posts like this are why Bungie mostly ignores this forum. "Boring" is about as subjective and useless as criticism gets. If it's goofy clickbait it's self defeating because it immediately identifies the poster as someone who simply dislikes Destiny. Not someone with helpful analysis.

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                          • Exactly the same story bro.Dropped Destiny 2 months ago, after 5 years. No reason to play anymore. Everything feels meaningless and fake, painfully boring, broken and bastardized. Really shame, that bungie lost their creative members and replaced them with Mr. and Mrs. nobody.

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                            • 작성자: RockNotABoulder 8/10/2020 1:42:47 AM
                              See you in the November. Sorry that Bungie can't supply an endless stream of content constantly.

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                              • I disagree I’m having fun. Although I did take a long break from the game to work on real life stuff. Maybe that’s what you should do. Then come back when bigger things are happening or a little before Beyond Light.

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                              • 작성자: AdligerAdler 8/10/2020 11:16:40 PM
                                Millions of people don't think it's boring. Seems like a you problem. Oh before I forget: [spoiler]Git gud.[/spoiler]

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                              • Hey, cosmo. You reading this? I very much doubt it. In case you are, use the wheel thingy on your mouse and scroll through the topics. Notice anything? Yup, people are getting p¡ssed off with this game. Boring, repetitive grinds for things that'll be irrelevant soon, toxic, cheat filled pvp lobbies and a lot of anger about sunsetting. This isn't something that's gonna be fixed with empty promises. If this ship goes down, we'll go find something else to spend our cash on. Whereas you and your colleagues will be out of a job. Explain that to the shareholders.

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                                • It's sad to hear that you feel that way.

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                                • 작성자: iDare2Defy 8/11/2020 1:08:01 AM
                                  You put into words what I’ve been feeling myself. Idk what it was about D1, but there was always something I would feel like logging on to do. And that was BEFORE I even made friends in the game. I actually had fun. Solo. It’s like in D2, if I’m not logging on for friends, I’m not logging on at all. And my buds don’t play this game anymore so...I don’t hardly play anymore either. Which is sad. Idk if I’ll make it through this solstice event solo (it’ll be my first one without buds to keep me company). Don’t even get me started on IB. I never missed it in D1. And yet I haven’t touched it in a few seasons. There’s zero point to. They’ve pissed me off too much with making you grind for literally the same shit you already unlocked. Ugh. D2 is a mess.

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                                  • Everything you just said screams burn out, go play something else bruh. I learned how to mod skyrim, I still play overwatch, occasionally play COD or smash bros. If you are still bored then go outside, its therapeutic

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                                  • Who thought it’s a good idea to remove the grimoire cards about enemies and their factions? NOT a very good idea.

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                                  • Bungie should stay away from loot based games. Stick to linear Halo style design. It’s what you were good at. Old halo team doesn’t even exist anymore anyway. Bungie is a shell of what was. Get it? No? Ok

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                                  • I think some of the problems arise from players playing the game since launch. Playing 6 years, yup any game would be boring. Only so many times u can defend your ghost whilst it unlocks a door! I'm taking a break due to the repetitive boredom and I'm playing Division 2. And guess what? Players playing from Division 1 are saying the same! They're bored too! Not just destiny. I'd suggest having a weekly pursuit to gain a super weapon, but A: Bungie will nerf it, once the streamers are bored with it, and B: It's OK having a good weapon, but if the other 99% of the game is watching paint dry........ I don't think Bungie have enough resources to keep churning new stuff out, even if people paid. Conclusion: Go play something else, til new content drops, it'll still be here when u get back!

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                                    • Agreed, but not with “the best feeling shooty mechanics”, not anymore and here’s why. The bungie team is hell bent on continuous nerfing and maybe some of you have noticed that it is finally seriously affecting those once wonderful shooting mechanics. In their war to make the game [i]seem[/i] more challenging bungie is ruining the only good thing left about the game. Who hasn’t read the complaints, scout rifles suck now, hand cannon bloom, pulse rifles with no range, the list goes on. I’m sorry to say that even COD has better shooting these days. Hell even the division has better weapons. Destiny is boring, sticks you with a mind numbing grind, has reduced the once exciting “space magic” to a shadow of its former self and bungie simply does not care in the slightest what their paying customers say about any of it. I know many of you come in here and post because you hope that bungie will someday fix your once favorite game, i have been doing the same for years now but it is only getting worse. Eventually most of you will get sick of it as i have and bungie will lose its loyal consumers.

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