Oh so NOW we praise streamers and YouTubers?

Dude this game is shallower than a shot glass. I dunno what you think gamers need spelled out for them, but honestly everyone would be much better off if they just invested their time in different games. Almost everything is better than Destiny right now.

I recently attepted to get a friend to download destiny. When I explained that all your gear was eternal(no sunset) and as a casual this was a excellent selling point. log on play a little come back next week or next month your gear is still just as relevant. This was something that interested him. But when sunsetting became more public knowledge it put the full breaks on it for him. So Bungie I say this. With out the sunset the current system favors less intensive/casual/ new players while also rewarding the hardcore with god rolls they want to chase. A rotating loot pool will deff hurt the casual player base far more and you dont need a GD masters in econ to know that casual players are the bread and butter to every video game.

So you watch YouTube to watch Aztec but to lazy to search YouTube for your answers?

We've been arguing for this for years....and Bungie just refuses to do it. They want clans to be foundation of the game....and stable communities to arise from them. But the fact is that this is not how most people experience the game, and disempowering them to play the game without joining a clan is not going to change things. It will just make people get frustrated and stop playing. There's an old saying that Bungie needs to have a reality-check with: YOU HAVE TO PUT THE SIDEWALKS WHERE THE PEOPLE WALK..... While I think matchmaking for raids is a bit unrealistic, In-game LFG (not subordinated to clans like Guided Games was ) is not an unreasonable thing to ask for.

What blows my mind is how the original purpose of the tower was pretty much to be THE "Social Hub" and suddenly that's being forgotten. [quote]Destiny's fact sheet mentions the city, the social space players will use to refuel, repair, and rearm before going out on their next adventure, will be played in third-person.[/quote] 2013 Eurogamer article How is it that the location that is pretty much supposed to be dedicated to Guardian Social life is being ignored when desiring features the game has failed to provide in its 6 years? Why is the farm the ideal LFG location? Because it's empty? Sorry to say, there isn't enough space for a bunch of tents. Even if you consolidated all activities into one terminal, why put it there? The problem with the Farm is that there's pretty much no reason to go there and also no reason to put anything there. It doesn't have an identity, it was literally a [i]temporary[/i] base of operations until the City was reclaimed. It makes no sense to do anything serious with it technically and figuratively (the game world itself) Another thing to consider, if the EDZ ever gets Vaulted, the farm goes with it. Gonna Vault an LFG Zone, makes no sense.

Wow... He is like the first person I can remember saying what MANY of us have been saying since this game came out... Match making, match making... MATCH MAKING!!! I'm just about at my end with this game, couldn't even do a Legend nightfall solo tonight... I mean, on youtube I see people doing grandmaster solo (usually on PC, I'm on xbox) isn't fair and makes no god damn sense... Unless you are clanned up or LFG, there is so much you just can't do, no matter what level you are at. There is honestly so little reason left to play this game... I'm so tired of having this crap gated. I won't bother anymore.. I'll play with my friend from time to time but otherwise I'm not wasting another moment playing with one hand tied behind my back. I've had it.

Google?

They already said they’re changing the new light experience. Gosh, some people are impatient...

I got a friend of mine who started the game yesterday, only to find all the campaigns are scrapped/hidden, most of the planets are level locked, and basically all he can do is run through some strikes to level up and hope there's more for him. I can't see his screen, so he's probably missing something, but with Red War gone there's very little to introduce new players into the game.

I think it affects the PvP mains and hits them a lot harder. Lemme explain.... This game really isn’t F2P. Have you tried playing with friends that are new and haven’t paid? From a PvE standpoint, it’s basically unplayable Run the pit? Nope. Raids? Not really. Yes I’m exaggerating a bit but unless you want to run through years of stuff and explain everything down to every enemy subclass and race and bounties and what counts and literally every nuance in the game, it’s futile. The catalyst to the futility has been the adoption of disposable seasonal content. Systems have been built upon systems that no longer exist. Nobody wants a history lesson just trying to shoot aliens and earn good guns. Bungie is literally banking on this frustration. But not PvP. Free for all. Free for everyone. Cheaters that have no checks and balances. How many people have tried F2P PvE, couldn’t access anything they actually wanted to try, got frustrated and said screw this game. I’ll just go make the game miserable for people where I have no limits. PvP. I can’t stand PvP now. I just avoid it as much as I can. PvP mains have historically been their own worst enemy, just look at the cbmm vs sbmm fiasco. Nobody is gonna stick around to get farmed all the time. But it is also the only part of the game with no paywall restrictions. TL;DR- Bungie is banking on player frustrations leading to F2P inductees forking over cash for a better PvE experience. And it’s backfiring. Driving the “ACTUAL” playerbase away Edit: this is the first season I haven’t enjoyed PvP. If that means anything or not, I dunno. But this season...yikes

Ive tried to help a handful of new players and they just don't understand the idea of grinding, or doing content over and over for new gear. They just assume that they can just buy stuff since there is stuff in stores. The tool tips are nice. And the popular do arrive right when you need to know them, but people aren't reading them. They just don't care.

I just realized the Farm will have no purpose going forward lol At least hold events there, like come on.

His heart is in the right place, an in game lfg would work. But some of the stuff he says, like, expanding from a 16 man instance to "i think 200 people would be nice" is just wishfull thinking. Same for having videos of the raids in game. Audio and video files take up more space than actual game files. He needs to be more realistic. A simple quest board with searchable parameters like in monster hunter would do it

Bungie has a serious problem with communicating what to do and when in their game. I’m not asking for new players to be held by the hand, but a few more obvious road signs would be nice. And yeah, the Farm needs a reason to exist, period. Hawthorne, clans, firing range, holiday parties, all that stuff could and should go to the Farm. Hawthorne especially, her being in the Tower makes NO sense when you think about her character. It would at least make the world feel a little bigger, right now the Tower is literally all that matters.