Destiny is a just a time killer, it is not and will never be a staple. Bungie is doing what they can to make an "in the moment" game. Nothing, no matter how much you want it to be more, will change that fact. As I've said, the only good things in this game are the music, the overall maneuverability and the lore of this universe. Otherwise, the cutscenes and characters are not interesting enough. They could be scrapped and nothing would change, the loot handling is mediocre, the restrictions on how you can play is uninviting and the RPG aspect is non-existant outside of the label. All this game is, is a shell, with some good ideas here and there but it's more an expensive indie game if anything, with no actual goal.

It’s not just the engine. There’s something really, really rotten in Destiny 2’s DNA. Watching Bungie continue to build on Destiny 2’s foundation is like watching a shitty mechanic paint over a rusty part of a car body, while pretending they don’t see the rust. And everyday, that rusty patch spreads a little bit more, until one day it consumes the whole entire body. Destiny 2’s isn’t the version of Destiny that I would have picked to become Destiny forever.

[quote]It's not too late to do the right thing for everybody, including yourselves.[/quote] It is too late and these are some of the reasons it will never happen. 1. They don't have that bank backing them up anymore that was the ones actually creating this game. 2. Some of the talent that created the best content this game has is working on the new game or quit this company, or left with Activation. 3. There new game as most can see took priority over this game and its player base. 4. The game has a director that shouldn't have ever been put in his position for many reasons. 5. Management 6. Building a new engine from the ground up cost money, so if they wouldn't invest in servers what makes anyone think they would build a new engine especially knowing they are dropping this game in a couple of years. 7. As I said, they're dropping this game in a couple of years, leaving it behind just as they did with the first game. I understand that people would like to see this company to explore its potential of what it could have been, but that train left the day this game was released. All of us have to face the fact that this company today destroyed this game. They are the "destiny killer". All this time people thought other games would bring this one down and it was right in front of everyone's face the entire time.

Also... i don't want to restart.. I'm sick of getting my stuff removed. Don't want that to happen to my exotics and catalysts. Which is what would happen with a Destiny 3

A new engine isn't going to make them miraculously make good decisions for the game. Destiny 2's problems run a lot deeper than its engine. Our characters are boring. The gear is boring. The constant recycling of content is boring. And as others have pointed out, it would take too much time and money to rebuild the game from the ground up. There's a reason that they've been using this engine for as long as they have.

Ive said this a million times. Its not that simple. 1. Creating a new engine ground up will take longer then just a few years. Especially focusing on a engine right now means no expansive content for probably the next 4-5 years. Gotta build the engine (which the engine is optimized for Destiny) gotta make sure it works, got to build Destiny from the ground up again because if you are using software previously from the old engine it most likely wont run the same. Then they have to make new content, which they already have started. Its just more trouble then its worth 2. Bungie has to build the same engine to optimize around Destiny, which again a new Engine wont remove all the bugs. You are suggesting a engine basically built just for Destiny, which the current engine is already fine. Most of the issues Ive seen are client sided or known in game bugs.

Or just go back to calling it “Destiny” and combine everything in a new engine. You know, if we’re dreaming big.

"Abandon ship"! *Jumps off kayak*

Id love that hopefully Bungie stops updating ps4 and xbox 1 so that they can stop holding Destiny back.

And how exactly will the new engine make the game better?

No. God please, NO. I hated leaving EVERYTHING behind going into D2, and the fact I'm still waiting on gear to come back that I loved using after 3 years is so frustrating, and whenever they bring this stuff back, people only b*tch about it. If I have to ever do that again, I'm going to stop playing. I appreciate what Bungie is doing here with BL, TWQ, and LF. It felt like a complete jump with very minimal continuity going into D2. Despite my characters being the ones from D1, they didn't feel like my characters until very later on in the game. Sunsetting may be an issue right now, but that doesn't mean they can't or won't change their minds about it in the future. I guarantee we'll have it for this year and if feedback about how terrible it is continues, we could easily see a revert. There's nothing wrong with trying new things out.(Of course, the way they're trying this new thing out is pretty bad to put it nicely) Destination vaulting is absolutely non-problematic. For both new and old players. The last time I actually went to Titan was to help a friend start the Outbreak Perfected quest back in... October? I'm only going to Io now because of Contact, I literally have no other business there. Mercury? Nope, haven't been there since Dawn and that was only because of Sundial, I never actually used the planet itself, before that? God, who knows. Mars? There's no reason for it to be here anymore now that all of the Escalation Protocol weapons are in Prophecy. Leviathan is the only iffy one, and that's because it consists of raids. Also these destinations AREN'T going away forever, they may come back. Nothing is fundamentally wrong with how D2 works, there are simply just problems with some mechanics and features that they need to address and be transparent about. That's it. Every other game in the world with online has similar issues.