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작성자: Doc-THE BIG MAN 5/30/2020 6:10:37 PM
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Should raids offer one ascendant shard for a clear?

Yes?

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no?

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The title is self explanatory? Im not stressing farm but im talking bout 1st clear of the week you get one but only for that account and if they were to drop for other raids let old calus be able to drop it as well and only calus for the free peeps unless that gets a rework i dunno but as it stands i think raids deserve it

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  • 작성자: J_v_K 5/31/2020 8:15:48 PM
    I actually agree with you on that. Bungie need to increase the number of activities that offer upgrade materials such as Ascendant Shards and Ascendant Prisms. There are a number of other things that should happen with regards to the raids. The first thing Bungie need to do is to update the Leviathan raid up to current light levels so that completing it offers Pinnacle loot. They then need to allow the Leviathan weapons to have randoms rolls as well as access to mods. This would shake things up immeasurably for the community as not only would this make the Leviathan raid relevant again but there are a number of Leviathan raid weapons that would be much sought after with particular rolls. The second thing Bungie need to do is to take leaf out of the Age of Triumph playbook. They need to have a weekly rotating raid that offers pinnacle loot. Now I admit that some of the raids such as Scourge of the Past, Crown of Sorrows and the Leviathan raid lairs are pretty short by comparison so they should rightly be left out the rotation. Come seasson 12 the rotating weekly raid should switch between Leviathan, Last Wish, Garden of Salvation and whatever the new raid is come year 4, much in the same way that they did in Age of Triumph. The third and final thing is where I agree with your post on. Come year 4, completing one of the main raids in the weekly raid rotation will offer an Ascendant Shard as a reward in addition to whatever raid loot the players get. This would be per character as opposed to being per account but it would mean that it is possible to get three Ascendant Shards per week per account. Any raid completing after this will only offer Ascendant Prisms and Enhancement Cores. Bungie need to make better use of the activities that they have and the older raids are one such resource that could add a lot of longevity to the game. Changes along the line of what I just mentioned would ensure players would raid more often and would actually have incentive to raid in the first place.

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    • Sure, I think that’s reasonable

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    • Best idea I’ve ever seen in the mines

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    • Full disclosure, I do not raid, as I play with a group of two other friends pretty exclusively (aside from matchmaking activities) but I see absolutely no issue with awarding raiders with an ascendant shard from a raid clear. Clearing PoH three times a week (which we have been doing recently) nets 18 enhancement cores and 18 enhancement prisms, if you dismantle the pinnacle rewarded from each run. That allows the purchase of almost two shards all by itself. Yes, I understand we're breaking pinnacle gear to get them, but I just don't see any harm in awarding more difficult activities with resources of greater value. It seems like this would have been a default reward to be honest. Then again I am always a fan of greater rewards for everyone in all activities or at the very least weekly resource rewards in addition to powerful and pinnacle rewards.

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      It'd be nice. Or maybe just chances at bonus enhancement materials in general on top of the loot we already get. I think myself and many others would probably want to raid more consistently if this were implemented.

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      • I say no because not everyone is in a position to do raids and you should have a drop chance from all pinnacle activities in general.

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        • Really, I think the upgrade materials (cores, prisms, and shards) should become part of the general loot pool, but while keeping ordeal nightfalls mostly the same as the primary farming method for prisms and shards. For example, changing enhancement cores to be blue instead of purple rarity, and allowing them to drop from anything that can drop blue items. Obviously the actual percent chance of a core dropping would not be very high, maybe only a few percent per blue drop, but it would still be enough that over the course of a multi hour play session you could expect to at least get a small handful of cores if nothing but blues drop. Prisms would stay legendary and rarely drop alongside any legendary items that you get, be it powerful rewards, legendary and prime engrams (that aren't purchased, you can't farm Rahool engrams for drops), completed cryptograph essences, the works. Ascendant shards would remain exotic and drop somewhat regularly from world exotic drops (exotic quests and xur's inventory do not count). So every 3 or 4 exotics you get in the world would have an ascendant shard drop alongside it. Of course, the drop rates are far too low to actually farm the materials without still going to ordeal nightfalls. But even just getting some cores and a few prisms naturally would both make world drops worth much more, and allow players to at least get a few higher level upgrades without being required to do 1 activity over and over. Alternatively, Ascendant shards could be a high chance drop in activities that reward tier 2 pinnacle gear like raids and dungeons since they already drop from Trials.

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        • This Idea is very WOWish. One run per week for rewards. And what happens is that everyone does their one run and goes home. But In WOW the gear that drops is almost guaranteed to be useful, while the gear in D2 is almost guaranteed to be junk. This is the difference between an MMO like WOW and Looter shooter. One gives a tiny bit of gear and that gear is good, while the other gives a TON of gear but is mostly junk.

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          • No but listen before you snap at me. I say no because destiny true endgame is it’s horrible pvp. Because you can only play the raid once per week with each character if you have three separate characters. After you have finished all other activities and that is including menagerie,black armory bounties,reckoning,nightfalls,strikes,and gambit. The only thing left is anything that has to do with pvp. Minusing gambit heavily because of it pve/pvp but let’s be honest it’s more pvp than anything. Raids should be where you can play them as much as you want and get gear instead of one time per week. It BS.

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            • If armor is getting the sunset treatment we need many more practical ways of earning upgrade materials

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            • They should offer 6 pre nerfed gjallarhorns .....bring back the fun

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            • Easily

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            • First make the raids fun then add the shard. Both these things would encourage people other than no life elitists to try and complete them

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              • I'd say yes. Ascendant shards are almost as rare as tits on a snake.

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                • I forgot what that even is 🤣

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                • 작성자: BaconLettuceMeta 5/29/2020 10:22:15 PM
                  Yeah lets give 2% of the player base a new way to farm shards. They need to add a chance of shards dropping to all end game content, like dungeons etc. Not just raids! Id rather delete raids altogether and just put more dungeon type activities instead.

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                  • Ascendant shards should also drop on every reset of a crucible card. It takes a while to reset a card unless you no life destiny and it would give me a reason to actually bother to reset my card

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                  • Let's go over a list of everything raids should offer; - Weapons in each slot (GoS has no power weapons. That is unbelievably stupid) - Unique, Raid themed cosmetics (I.E: Ornaments for Raid Armor, Unique Shaders with cool effects (glowing, taken, etc.) ship and sparrow, ghost shell, emblems) - Raid Based Mods that are beneficial primarily within the raid, but also useful outside of the raid. Why doesn't Garden of Salvation drop Vex Barrier or Armaments? The world may never know. - Masterwork Materials in bonus chests (I'd much rather have a bonus chest be able to drop 3 - 7 enhancement prisms than just 1 ascendant shard from a full clear). - Benefits to completing the raid multiple times per week, even if they are incredibly small. We really only ever got this with King's Fall and the Moldering Shards

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                  • 작성자: CookieNiki 5/30/2020 10:53:46 PM
                    No. Not yet. Before that happens, each raid should drop it's own exclusive top tier exotic weapons/armor with awesome perks that no other gear in the game has. That's how the pinnacle endgame activity of the game should reward the players, period! After they start doing that, and only after, if Bungie wants to add an ascendant shard to the final rewards, that's ok with me.

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                    • Maybe for completing a challenge like destiny one would drop a ornament thingy to unlock one of two ornaments on the raid armor. That would be cool

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                    • Idek what that is or used for in d2.

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                    • Makes sense to me. It takes much more to get a raid going for the average player than it is to run a master level nightfall. Right now most raids aren’t worth the run unless you want to have fun with friends.

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                    • You should get 1 for every new guy you carry through a raid.. try your luck with 5 freshies and get 5 shards.. plus give you a emblem with carries on 👌

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                      • They should offer a hell of a lot more actually. No, I haven't run any of the raids and how lacking they actually are is the main reason I won't waste my time, especially now that sunsetting is going to "improve" the experience running raids.

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                        • Sure? Don’t see why not. Would probably get more people raiding

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                        • Can raids actually be relevant? Thatd be great..

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