I think he lacks the leadership and long term game plan to make destiny what it should be. The game lacks competition so Bungie as whole has become complacent. Bungie’s complacency was probably a big factor in the Activision split. Look how many times they have pushed back content and haven’t made schedules. I can’t do that in my career. Most careers you have to find a way to progress and overcome. Bungie is the opposite regress and underachieving is the constant. Activision is the better company and better decision makers hands down. The evidence since the split shows overwhelmingly Activision is superior as a company.

The answer is “yes”. Luke Smith and the nu-Bungie “developers” have been desperately trying to kill the game since they “sunsetted” D1. It’s [b][i]grindingly[/i][/b] obvious.

If the let it fail they will start a new game. I was told along time ago Bungie didn’t want to make Halo 2 Bungie was not into sequels.

Well said. Destiny is dead already sadly. Weapon sunset is my last straw. I get on the game and i am lucky if 5 or 10 people are on. Bungie has turned shady and stupid. I would have to say Destiny 2 has been the biggest lie and worst sequel ever. I paid for one more season and if I can stand the shitty content I may play it a bit but after that I am done with this failed ship. Luke Smith is an idiot in my opinion and to stupid to figure out how bad the game is.

Even an idiot knows they’ve got a problem when YouTubers and Streamers start announcing an end to certain game related content being produced. Then theres Luke Smith who looks at the problems and says “Let’s sunset their gear and make em start from scratch every couple seasons. That’ll bring em all back!” Dumbass.

Like smith doesn’t realize this game was built on being a looter shooter not an mmo, this isn’t world of Warcraft

I think game directors are getting too much hype, undeserved fame and blame. The problem is this is starting to become harassment, not good for the developers or the players. Sure, many of us have invested too much time and money in this franchise, but it's time to let go. There are better games out there, PVE and PVP. Many of them free to play. Don't become frustrated and waste your time on this game when we can leave and seek out more fulfilling entertainment.

It already failed. Activision seen the writing on the wall and tossed bungie like a hot potatoe

He's clueless so no.

I don’t even understand why they have a feedback forum if they don’t use it. The subreddits seem to be static silence too. Some people here seem to think that listening to feedback from he forums is a bad idea. Things like not nerfing and only buffing, or matchmaking for all activities. These aren’t really bad ideas, it’s just that we’ve arrived at that point due to many decisions at Bungie where the game has decreased in quality. They nerf weapons because we use them too much rather than creating alternate weapons to counter or expand the variety of what is used. They create activities which require more than 3 people in patrols yet don’t implement matchmaking. The good feedback here comes from those who put forward a suggestion with a reason, and you can definitely find plenty of that amongst whining posts which are understandably ignored. They can’t always listen to feedback because otherwise that would drive the game too far in a different direction, however getting feedback on gameplay changes from what we are used to is a must. Originally the two primary system was heavily disliked yet they still put it forward. Ingame LFG was requested and we got guided games. There are other examples such as changes to the seasonal model but there isn’t much point in listing them all. They aren’t listening. That’s all there is.

[quote][i]I play videogames for over 22 years and the decision making in Destiny (a Triple A game) is handsdown the ...worse I have ever seen.[/i][/quote] More worse than Superman 64? :)

Honestly, if you've been playing videogames for 22 years and think Destiny tops the charts of "bad decisions" you clearly had a narrow gaming scope. Shout out to 8 year old's and youtubers.

The deal is Bungie saw how much mtx money they were having to share with Activision so they they got out of that deal and tried making mind numbing grind game hoping they would just rake in the mtx cash only this has blown up in their face, honestly I hope they fail.

"Not everyone can be Joe Staten..." Truer words were never spoken. Also, "you cant play how you want" also true.

I honestly truly believe some uhh political ideologies are in the way of Destiny 2 progress. First of all, the disconnect between management or whoever is pushing this decisions and the player base is abysmal. Whoever is making the decisions does not play this game and/or has some very weird fetishes of what they consider fun. That is a fact or like you stated they want this project to fail for some reason.

Barrett will have to save the game again. Its a cycle.

Destiny could have been one of the best games ever made.....

I've been here for 8 years, and it was never like this during the reach days.

The lootpool is big enough for a 2-year-cycle. repeating itself over and over again, maxcap increasing. no balancing problems once these item are in some kind of balance. new items added now and then, spotlight, new exotics, hype. all timegated, not playing is no option. new appearances will be added as ornaments, ornaments dont need to be balanced. game evolves without evolving, players running in circles, hidden stagnation. really new content, mostlikely a raid and some new player area, every 12 to 18 month. minimum effort project once everything is set. just waiting for the daily eververse outcome. take a look at all these heartless daily log on, buy or die mmorpgs ...

To be honest, I started playing this game 4~ months ago, and have since then put 600 or so hours into it. The game atmosphere, design elements, lighting, level design, music and many other aspects are some of the best I've seen. It's a truly beautiful game with a lot of really great core activities. But those activities quickly become stale when you realize Bungie has all but abandoned them to focus on what I would consider truly poorly implemented seasonal activities. Dawn was a boring, repetitive grind, and Worthy is somehow a hundred times worse. It seems to me that whoever developed the core aspects of this game were on the right track, but whoever is in control now is out to turn this game into something else entirely, and it's not a good look for Bungie or Destiny 2. Bungie needs to focus more on core activities. Make strikes worth running by giving them robust loot pools that are unique to each strike. Make forges worth running by lessening the grind to obtain the title and by reinvigorating the loot pools. Release new raid, strike and dungeon content with robust and unique loot pools of their own. We need better looking armor that is actually worth using, and much more of it. Because many of the horrible armor designs don't match the beautiful world at large, and with most of the armor in this game, for some odd reason, none of it is even worth using because of a lack of mod slots. I'd go as far as to say that most of the current armor in the game is pretty horrible and less than useless. Whoever is designing this stuff either needs to take a step back and really think about what they're doing, or they need to be replaced entirely. Some of it is okay, but most is barely even acceptable. Most exotic pieces look pretty fantastic. The sets, especially the last couple of season's sets were just absolute garbage. But most of all, I see that you've not added to the story in any meaningful way in a long while. Shadowkeep doesn't even seem to matter. The entire Moon storyline was just absolutely boring to me. But I digress. Most of all, you need to work on adding to the story in a big, meaningful way. Big DLC expansion with new raids, dungeons, strikes, gear and weapons galore, lots of story to soak up. Something for people to get lost in for a few months with big replayability. The major issue? Bungie allows the core of their game to stagnate while they focus on seasonal activities, eververse, and most importantly, Trials. Bungie bragged about how they wanted to release Trials in a perfectly finished state, but what they released is so broken it's pretty much unplayable. Guess what this means? It means the vast majority of their developers are working to fix that garbage PVP content while the core game goes down the shitter, and the core playerbase along with it. Just look at the Steam tracker for Destiny 2 if you want to see where the core playerbase went. Away from this game. That's where. I fear Destiny 2 is on its way out. From what I've seen on Steam's tracker, this game is falling steadily toward being nothing but a distant memory, and a uniquely bittersweet one at that.

It's only bad because the RPG element has been abandoned along with the storyline and the power fantasy and so the looter/shooter aspect was all that was left. And unless they invent new gun features like a gun that shoots guns that are themselves shooting or add in chainsaws or replace grenades with growlers full of beer you can throw at enemies to get them drunk - they have to sunset gear and let you earn it again because you will have exhausted the fully enumerated set of gun types and rolls and there will be nothing left to get