You can do that for current weapons like the Seraph weapons (their true power lay in the mods). But you can't do that with the backlog of three years of other legendary and exotic weapons. Bungie has no way to retire the power of these weapons from the game other than by nerfing them into the ground. So right now, all we have is the ILLUSION of choice. Because Bungie FORCIBLY retires weapons they want gone from the end-game meta by BREAKING them with nerfs. So they are not only do they not dominate the end-game.....they often become so frustrating to use that they don't get used anywhere else. (Sleeper Simulant) I'd much rather have Bungie simply cap the ability to infuse a weapon so that it isn't end-game viable.....but leave the weapon otherwise intact. So that I can enjoy using it in other parts of the game. [quote]Noone will want to grind out god rolls anymore if they expire after a year, [/quote] Actually many of us will. Veteran loot-gamers have always understood the need to retire power from the game. Which is why we don't fall in love with our gear....and we went into these grind without any expectations that we would use them forever. In fact when Bungie made that promise that we could keep our gear and carry it with us throughout the game back in D1....I dismissed it right away. Its a promise they never lived up to....and were never GOING to be able to live up to. Bungie has always found ways to retire problem weapons. The reboot between Y1 and Y2 of D1. Blowing up our vaults so that D1 guns got left behind. The endless parade of nerfs that broke super-regen armor....and moved last year's pinnacle weapons out of the meta. That "promise" has always been an illusion and an empty shell. They only took them away once. But they always found other ways to make sure that you didn't use weapons they didn't want you using.

Please do not get upsetty @ me. I understand where you’re coming from. But some of us are used to the typical mmo/WoW philosophy of new content bringing better rewards and leaving old items in the past. Some of us don’t play to get attached to a single weapon. Some of us want this to feel like an mmo and progress every season. Like I said, I do understand where you’re coming from, but your personal desires do not represent the desires of everyone. I for one am very pro-sunsetting and I can explain myself if you would like.

Your idea, and the way they are implementing sun setting, are the same thing just done two different ways. Again, they aren’t removing your weapons. You will just be at a disadvantage using them in endgame content where power matters. Not that big a deal. Some weapons need this treatment, such as mindbenders, spare rations, beloved, pinnacles, etc. Time for the old to go to make room for the new. If that means players too, then they were the old and were holding the game back from improving further.

They just need to significantly buff existing weapon perks: 1. Hip-fire grip exponentially increases accuracy and magnetism. 2. Triple tap refunds 3 bullets back to the magazine, possibly out of thin air. 3. Threat detector gives super fast reload speed. 4. Zen moment is combined with under pressure, dynamic sway reduction, pulse monitor, and underdog into 1 perk, maximising stability. 5. Air assault gives faster handling, more accuracy and greater damage while in the air. 6. Field prep and firmly planted are combined into 1 perk. 7. Dragonfly does much more damage and has a greater, more noticeable blast radius. Or something like that. The perks are way too stale and weak. Bungie really needs to hire people with creativity and not only based on their gender.

Imagine not understanding the point of sunsetting. Imagine proposing something that would have literally the exact opposite effect of sunsetting.

Am I the only one who just naturally wants to farm new weapons, even if they're trash? I farmed rolls for all the Seraph weapons and ended up liking all of them more than I thought I would. I don't get how ppl stick with 2-3 year old guns and still have fun. Bungie shouldn't need to sunset weapons to make us use new ones, we should already be eager to try new guns out.

Seasonal mods practically drive a weapons usage in pve though. Why do you think so many exotic weapons are on the curb rather than being used? Because they can't slot seasonal mods. And thus the exotics that have the effect built in are forever valuable. Also god roll farming has never been a good way to extend the length of the game. So unless they actually manage to overhaul the way to do so I can't in good faith agree to anything that supports the current way of god roll farming. I won't touch on the rest of your post. Just feels like easy bait for up votes/circle jerking into an echo chamber.

I'd be very happy if they ditched: - Elemental affinities - The artifact - The Seasonal Mod slot - Champions - Sunsetting weapons - Blue Engrams - Power levelling tied to weapons --- But they won't as they're 1. not listening to the community 2. are in love with the ideas of the above.

i worked hard to get my recluse my mountain top and redrix amongst many more weapons i use only to be told in a few short months they will be useless in future expansions, why would i even bother grinding any pinnacle/ritual/ weapons in the future .this makes the grind pointless.

That means very little in PvP.

When have they said about them doing this. ??. I cant seem to find it.

Sunsetting actually improves the god roll farm. When was the last time anyone farmed for a god roll ad clear weapon? Oh yeah, they just got recluse and that was it.