I think Destiny 1 nailed the loot aspect of Trials pretty well. When Trials first came out, there were 2 sets of weapons and armor. If you wanted to get rewards casually, you could get the basic set of weapons and armor, but if you wanted to go for flawless, you were rewarded with an exclusive set of rewards for going flawless. The next year, when they introduced a new set of flawless armor, the previous flawless set became available to all players. This system of armor drops satisfies the casual and hardcore communities. The hardcore players always have the latest and greatest set to show their flawless prowess and the casual players are not concerned about FOMO for some of the coolest looking gear in the game. Right now, hardcore players have less incentive for flawless and casual players have less incentive because hardcore players are farming wins for tokens. It's a lose-lose situation. In terms of weapons, Adept weapons are absolutely the way to go. Each set of weapons should get a PVP/trials specific intrinsic perk such as Celerity to give it an edge in Trials without concern of it running into Pinnacle weapon issues (ie Mountaintop/Recluse). Similarly, this gives an incentive to go flawless, but still allows casual players to get the base version of the weapon. Finally, something needs to be done about the incentive to farm tokens in low scoring tickets. I think the root of the problem is that Trials is very stingy with it's token rewards. I would rather see a system that gives more tokens based on how many wins you get on a card. For example, let's say you get 3 tokens for a win and 2 tokens for a loss as a default. Then, every time you turn in your card, you get more tokens based on the number of wins you had. Something like 1 token for every win up to 3 wins, 2 tokens for 4-5 wins, 4 tokens for 6-7 wins, and 10 tokens if the ticket is flawless. This would give you up to 15 tokens for a 7 win ticket and 25 tokens for a flawless ticket (in addition to the tokens you get for each win along the way). This would give players an incentive to continue to play on a ticket knowing that they will get more rewards the further along they get on a Trials card.

The majority of the players are not good.

This is what happens when players play pve and think themselves to be good when all the shoot at is enemies that don't fight back!

Pve isn’t fun for most of pvp players too. Why aren’t you talking about it and why we should upgrade our light level to compete against raiders that have less than half of our skill?

The majority of complainers don't want to have to work for it. They just want to have it. Flawless is hard based on your skill. I will probably not get a flawless card. But that is ok, im realistic. I don't live in a world of handouts, entitlement, and shameful begging. The only thing that needs some work is the banning of cheaters. That needs to be frequent and to the mac address of the device. Permanently. Trial's also target's a smaller demographic.

If you go flawless your character should be locked out of trials for the week. Give others a chance. Also needs to be a limit on resetting the card with less than 3 x losses.

My friend and I have reach 5500 in survial. That mean something right? And we get flawless to light house in fthe irst week even we only have low power 980 facing 1000 power player. The next week, we hardly reach 7 wins and decide "maybe this map is so good for hand cannon and shotgun player." This week, we never reach 5 wins. My friends go to paly CoD. I am alone now. When you make this mode try so hard, and so disappointing with this loot. Average player went away. After average player went away, good players got smashed by top players, we got away too. Then, top players could enjoy themselves in ToO? Not, I bet not.

Too many negative pvp changes, no balancing between weapon archetypes or subclasses. The worst mod system I’ve ever seen. Revert them all back to how it was D1. I won’t play again while autos are the meta.

For all the players out there that just say, it's for the elite player's. Have fun with that because soon all of you so called elite player will be playing with yourselves. You think you would want to encourage new players to play trials. But you just chase them away with your get gud comments. Acking like your entitled to this game mode you, and no one else should try...

Surprise, surprise. You need a healthy population for a game mode to survive and matchmaking to function properly. Higher skilled players told average and casual players that Trials wasn't meant for them and to go away. Those players took their advice and now people are freaking out.

I think you complainers are a bunch of cowards.. I enjoyed having these hard matches this weekend and we only got to 5 wins but we improved every day.. Stop being a bunch of crying -blam!-...

The game is broke nerfed everything handheld supernova warlock is dead now supers are trash hunter is king blade barrage op tether op all hunter supers op warlock is dead Titan dead hardlight ricochet rounds OP 3 guardians firing ricochet rounds OP suros 3 guardians OP 3 snipers OP balance the game all crucible is is hardlight ricochet rounds and sniper rifles where is the balance deeg fix it Destiny is better no grinding bountys its a job and people are tired of the grind its not enjoyable

A majority of players probably don't play trials