Play a different game and problem settled

[quote]I wouldn't mind it if the charge rate was slower like the jotunn and it actually took any skill to use. It's probably the most broken weapon that's ever been in the game. Now I know I know, all you shitty playing hunters will say other wise cause you bums all rely on it so much.[/quote] The Last Word, Every 150 RPM Hand Cannon, OG Prometheus, Lord of Wolves right after they changed the perk to toggle, I can name SEVERAL more examples of you want me to. [quote]Yesterday while playing comp, a guy got 18 kills, all by erentil. Know why? Cause it beats out every god damn weapon in the game and the range is disgusting. The rate of fire is faster than all other weapons.[/quote] It doesn't beat shotguns within their 1-2 hit kill range, it doesn't beat snipers... In general, depending on who's sniping, beyond 30 or so meters with most people. And Erentil is one of the slowest shooting weapons in the game, you get barely under 1 shot a second because of the .8 second wind-up. [quote]I was hitting him one time with a side arm at 10 feet away, he fired, missed as I kept shooting him and he fired again killing me. Makes a lot of sense?[/quote] So you missed? And you're blaming the weapon the opponent was using for you missing your shots? Seems legit. [quote]We need a new pvp team already that understands damage output, fire rate, super abilities and grenade damage. Pvp can be a lot of fun most of the time. But when you face people that know all the cheating, broken shit in this game and they exploit it. It really ruins the game.[/quote] The D1 team completely slammed the game in favor of hand cannons and/or Pulse rifles. This team does not, they're trying to actually balance the damn game, which as far as I'm concerned, means fusions aren't a complete joke in every aspect of the work, like with right now. [quote]We shouldn't have 3 hunters, 3 titans or 3 warlocks on one team at any given time. 3 warlocks are the easiest to face. Titan's can literally win every round without getting a kill once they get their bubble and they chain them. Hunters can do the same with blade dancer, that beats out 90% of all other supers. The supers that beat blade dancer, nobody runs. I've seen one void walker in 500+ matches.[/quote] Don't know what this has to do with Erentil, but okay, and don't you have your super button to counter their super button? [quote]Competitive will never be competitive with broken mechanics like this or one weapon that beats all others.[/quote] You're right, I guess it's time to actually nerf/rework Last Word, and make it so 150 Hand Cannons don't completely dominate the rest of the game in most instances. And keep Erentil/FRs as is, since they don't come anywhere near close to dominating anything beyond players with poor movement and positioning. [quote]Going forward, you guys need to get erentil out of the -blam!-in game already. People have asked for it for months on end and still it's here, killing everything from 200 yards out. [/quote] For 1, 35 meters isn't 200 yards, stop exaggerating. For 2, almost every "nerf fusions" post here has been in the negative, nerfing them is extremely unpopular of an idea to almost anyone who doesn't crutch on a Hand Cannon. [quote]Also, bubble titans, and twirling staff need to get out of pvp. If not, well of radiance should be as reliable as a titan bubble and twirling staff. Actually, -blam!- that, then a titan would just throw a suppressor grenade in the well and shut it down instantly.. That's another stupid ass thing in the game that should be removed.[/quote] My man just unironically asked for a Bubble nerf... Wow... Just... Wow... And suppressors are 100% balanced, coming from someone who hasn't really touched Titan in a long time. [quote]Who ever designed the pvp game are a bunch of dumb asses for not seeing how broken and dumb this shit is.[/quote] - Someone who unironically is calling for a Ward of Dawn nerf You have summoned me.

Yup get it out the things busted. Or they need to revert nf, Luna and recluse give the primaries some help against the erentil spam if they’re not going to nerf it like you have the primaries. What an idea bungee made nerf primary’s 🤦‍♂️

It needs a tweak for certain as do some other guns. I don’t understand why it takes bungle so long to make adjustments. Other developers do them every few days

One:you sound hella toxic Two:this is why I'm a PVE casual player If you need a break from fusion rifles just play pve at play a entirely new game

Voop voop, keep the tears coming princess 😂🤣

pfff do you wanna remove the whole weapon or just the perk Backup Plan Because they can make an diffrence on this outcome

I used it for a few matches before bed last night and it was fun. Definitely more skill required than shotgun kills. The more people talk about it, the more people are encouraged to go grab one.

It's not the range dopey, it is another factor with Fusions all together. Look it up.

NO stop nerf whining.... flipping PvP players can't suck it up and adapt nerfing weapons effects PvE also

Sounds like you need to find a new hobby other than Crucible.

This is downvoted bc a few people pubstomped it before anyone could see it. Most people hate this weapon. I don’t think it would be as bad, even with backup plan, if there weren’t so much special ammo available. If you’re running a special weapon, and you die with no ammo on you, you should NOT drop a green brick in crucible, and if they made it so you can only get bricks from fireteam members, it would still be balanced with PVE. I run double primaries now just to keep from feeding them. Makes a noticeable difference in comp.

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Jötunn fires in .86 of a second while Erentil fires between .86-.9 of a second, slower than most weapons optimal ttk. Erentil with accelerated coils and/or a charge masterwork work isn't worth having, it'll make it a 5 bolt kill therefore worthless. If there's any issue to be had with charge rate it would be backup plan, its otherwise fine. Range is fine, firmly planted needs to be looked at but honestly it's very situational. Strafing and rapid movement would work wonders against them, especially when it misses because time between shots is considerably longer than most weapons. You saying he killed you on the second shot means you -blam!-ed up more than he did. Removing( or nerfing into the ground ) the weapon will solve nothing, it's literally the only fusion rifle worth using compared to what 5 shotguns. Don't really care for whatever else you said, aside from please nerf everything that isn't my main and what I like to use. Why too -blam!-ing salty over all this.