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1/9/2020 1:39:29 PM
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What's happening in Virginia is a good example of why we need the electoral college.
https://vcdl.org/
You'll see a map that shows how many counties and towns are against this. If you notice, the majority of the state is against it (91 out of 95 counties). The people that are for it are the ones in the big cities, which when looking at the map, represents a very small fraction of the state.
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작성자: CastFeather495 1/9/2020 2:54:48 PMI never really got the argument that the amount of land matters more than the number of people. Not specific to this issue but in general, about anything. Doesn’t it lead to gerrymandering as well?
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[quote]If the rural and city areas are to have the same law, then I guess one area is going to get screwed over. Why should opinions - as measured by the size of land - matter more than a popular vote?[/quote] I just told you. They have different morals and needs. A city boy isn’t going to understand why a farmer needs a rifle to defend his home and produce from animals/people.
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[quote]I hear you. But the question I’m trying to get at is why do the farmer’s needs matter [i]more[/i] than an apartment dwelling person in the city?[/quote] 1st of all without farmers we would all die. Full stop. 2nd of all is why should you have the right to take away someone’s right to self defense?
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[quote]I’m not arguing against any of that - just the concept of one person’s vote mattering more than someone else’s. At least you are consistent, even though I disagree with your ideals.[/quote] Having the majority doesn’t mean you’re right. The founding fathers knew that so that’s why we’re set up the way we are.
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That’s the point of having elected officials, yes. I do not believe in a popular vote for every issue, very few in fact. But for those that the people do decide on (such as their elected officials) I cannot come to terms that one person’s vote should hold more sway over another’s.
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[quote]That’s the point of having elected officials, yes. I do not believe in a popular vote for every issue, very few in fact. But for those that the people do decide on (such as their elected officials) I cannot come to terms that one person’s vote should hold more sway over another’s.[/quote] What’s the point in having it at all if not to decide who gets into office.
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I may have came off that way but not my intent. My intent was as I previously stated. That the ideals of those in the country will differ from that of those from the city. But since the city has the majority, the rest of the state has to follow.
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By why should the city have to follow the ideals of the country if the country is the minority? To me that makes as much sense as a group of 10 people voting on where they want to go to lunch, 4 saying a burger joint and 6 saying a pizza place, and yet the 10 go to the burger joint. Shouldn't what would work for the most people be what happens?
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Idk it still doesn't make sense to me that just because there is more voices in a city, their voices should count for less. Trust me, it's annoying that NYC and Albany decides everything for me in non local elections, but I also understand that that where the most people live in my state.
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Ummm... Dude, the minority has been drowning out the majority for years now. EC is a flawed system, and [u]not[/u] representive of the majority; simply representative of the major minority. Popular vote is the way to go.
