Heeey you edited the entire post 😂 Damn, that’s some top notch backpedaling

Hunters get a dodge, Titans get......a barricade. A freaking barricade. These things are practically useless in the Crucible. A dodge does so much more. Warlocks get a healing rift, which is hardly useful in PvP. I've been killed in my rift more times than I can count. These are big reasons why Hunters dominate PvP.

Hunters have always been overpowered in this game. Ever since the release of Destiny 1. It's not cause the player is a badmofo. It's cause they are basically cheating compared to the other classes. Their abilities are instant and cheap. You have a hunter that can dodge instantly. In that dodge, they take zero damage. It instantly gives them an upper hand cause they can dodge, double jump and the warlocks and titans don't look around fast enough to shoot them. Specially if you are on the hunter. They have invisibility, that is instantly cheating. They made it harder to even see them. So now hunters can get 5 feet in front of you before you realize they are there. It's super cheap this is even allowed in the game. Since this game requires a little radar that lets you know an enemy is near. Bungie removed it at one point in time and all the hunter mains cried about it cause all of a sudden they didn't have the upper hand. But hey, let's give hunters the ability to stay off radar still. They have a smoke grenade. Again, another cheap tactic. If they hit you with it, or you walk into it, not knowing it was there. you are stuck, blind and again they get the upper hand in the battle. Other classes can easily walk out of a warlock grenade and have plenty of health left. They have a skip grenade that, if you are shot once, it can instantly kill you. It also tracks you a good 20 or so feet. Again, it's cheap. You turn to run from a battle and you have this annoying grenade that tracks you down and puts you in enemy danger again, They have blade barrage, which covers and kills everything in a 5 times wider range than nova bomb and its instant. It also saves the hunter if you are about to kill her and she pops it. If you hit her with a dawnblade as she pops it. Nothing happens to her. But the same scenario is reversed and the warlock and titan instantly die. blade dance is cheap as shit. Not only does it have a long range when you swipe it, but it can also block all incoming damage. Warlocks can't do that all. But hunters and titans can. spectral blades Is cheap too, cause again, you don't see or hear her until she is right by you and by that time, you are dead. Spectral and blade dance to this day, since the start of D2 are still the hardest supers to kill. I can get shotgunned once in stormcaller and instantly die. But a hunter takes round after round and nothing. Then when she is in melee range, she is 10 time faster than a warlock trying to punch her so death. She has the ability to slide further than any other class cause of her agility. I maxed out my warlock movement, thinking it would make me go really fast. A match started and I took off. A hunter passed me by a good 10 feet with 83 mobility. I could keep listing crap hunters have that make them way better and overpowered compared to the other classes. But it don't matter. Bungie, the shit company. Caters to this class in pvp tenfold. Just when the game was starting to get fun. Bungie nerfs the warlock class yet again. Cause hey, if you kill a hunter, you must be too strong. Best players in this game are not hunters. Best players in this game are the ones playing with classes that are on a handicap of +10 and that's warlocks. Cause if they can beat the best hunter, clearly they are the best player. Cause warlocks suck ass and I main one.

[quote]https://guardian.gg/2/class-stats?platform=console&mode=5&start=2019-06-29&end=2020-01-05 Read this however you want, either arcstaff winning the most since 6 -blam!-ing straight months (with spectrals often on the second place) because it's stronger or because arcstaff players are better (it means better players like arcstaff tools more than others), something needs to be done In a game where shotgun-hc will always be meta, mobility will be the best tool for a good pvp player and hunters with dodge and stompees give you the best mobility in the game Warlocks and titans are faster in a straight line but this isn't comparable to the hunter's close quarters tools (a bugatti chiron can't win a f1 race) They can get higher than the other classes, faster, they can easily break line of sight and get always the highground in a fight. Dodge is a great mobility tool which lets you go back to cover if you challenge a fight you can't win This meta goes on since season 3 and hunter is always the best choice for CONSOLE pvp Most of the good players stick with hunters and the qp stat farmers do the same, console high comp is probably 70% hunters Only biased people won't agree, i am glad you are so sad to play with the best class and claim the false in a videogame. You are as boring as hunter's kingdome Before anyone will say i'm butthurt: i don't -blam!-ing care to lose in this game, comp is a joke, the games we lose are against players way better than us (usually main hunters ofc) and most of you won't be able to win against some of the players we beat EDIT: So, since i've been accused to win trade here is a bot on discord that shows if someone is wintrading https://discord.gg/B4Pu4g8 This is Bore using it for my account DegradingboreOggi alle 13:09 Idioteo RaidBotBOTOggi alle 13:10 Idioteo - Out of 1074 competitive games, found a total of 46 invalid wins (4%). Of which 4 occurred in a row. And here you can see the explaination of the numbers 2) How to interpret the data: The bot will give you an output like the following stormtester - Out of 875 competitive games, found a total of 31 invalid wins (4%). Of which 4 occurred in a row. - The amount of invalid wins, is the amount of games won where no opponents loaded in the match. - The percentage is the amount of invalid wins there are out of the total amount of competitive games played. - The amount in a row is the highest invalid win streak the player has had. 3) Is the player a wintrader? The most important piece of data to look at is the amount of invalid wins that occurred in a row, innocent players, especially those with a lot of competitive games can have some in a row by chance, but the higher the amount in a row is, the more likely the player engaged in wintrading. General rule is that anything between 1 - 5 is normal, 6 - 9 can be given the benefit of the doubt, but anything 10+ is wintrader territory, with the higher the number being the more likely the player engaged in it. BETWEEN 1-5 IS NORMAL[/quote] You're also also a coward, a troll, fake elitist, and a wintrader. Editing won't save you or hide what you have done. I see you made your account private like I told you to do in the first place. I see you also edited all your insults and bs.

I came for warlock and titan tears...and as usual I am not disappointed. I found something that may help you in PvP: 🍼

Okay? Make a valid suggestion. You're just whining. The best thing to do better balance classes is make baracades spawn faster ( maybe 25-50% faster), and same for rifts. Hunters are supposed to be mobile, and as far as I'm concerned, the other classes are excellent at holding ground. Maybe don't play so aggressively with a class that is meant to play passive or defensive?

Booooooooo, Bad take. Warlocks have top tree Dawnblade, and titans have the fastest jump ability in the game. + good players just use Arcstider for its neutral game. It’s super is laughably bad. Nice try tho 👍

No.. Each class is suppose to be unique.. Not the same

Hunter - Mobility Warlocks - Recovery Titans - Resilience

People have been whining about Hunters since Day 1 of Destiny 1. You could restrict them to just Double Jump and people would still cry about them. Everything Bladedancer had ended up getting nerfed in D1 and people still weren't satisfied. People even whined that the subclass based on trapping enemies, Nightstalker, could actually trap people with Smoke and Grenades. Everyone even laughed at Dodge when D2 came out. Everyone agreed that Arcstrider was bad when D2 released and needed buffs. It finally gets them and now everyone throws a fit. Same with Spectral Blades. It's never going to end with these people.

Dude shut up. You're a wintrader and that alone makes everything you say invalid. You wanna blame a class for your L's meanwhile you're on here cheating. Wouldn't put it past you to use hacks and still lose. Shameful.

Warlock and Titans are fine. I don’t feel like checking any win trading I could care less about that. All 3 classes have plenty of builds they can abuse. Even sweat viable ones...

Not only are you complaining about a 2% win rate difference but Warlocks and Titans already have the tools to keep up. Blink Devour Dawnblade as a whole Arc Web Landfall Nova Bomb Handheld Supernova Striker as a whole Sentinel as a whole Thermite grenades OEM Dunemarchers Skullfort So your mad that hunters literally are the best at what they're meant to do? Warlocks and Titans have ways to go much quicker than hunters. Sure its a straight line but you guys are not meant to go vertical as much. And the meta has noticeablely shifted a bit from shotgun/hc. Pulse/fusion is kicking strong. Snipers are kicking pretty strong too. Scouts have made a bit of a resurgence as well. Not only this but just generally shotguns and hand cannons have slowly become a bit easier to deal with. Im sorry but I just see crazy salt in this post man.

Hunters thumbed this down because they like the advantage that their mobility gives them. I played a couple weeks as a hunter, and when I returned to my warlock I felt so sluggish. I actually thought that my warlock jumps were bugged because it took forever to get off the ground. In PVP that’s a huge advantage.

Yes, let's give all three classes maxed mobility, resilience, recovery and class ability regen. That way nobody will be butthurt. :S

This could all be fixed by making residence matter. But that scares Bungie because then 90% of the game might not be one hit kills anymore and that would anger the delicate player base.