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작성자: Luigigod 11/6/2019 8:47:02 PM
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POLL: Are you happy with the current state of The Crucible?

Yes

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No

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No opinion

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Have a reason(s) why you like / don't like it? Comment about it, you can't help improve the game by doing nothing. Edit: Over 1000 votes, nice!

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  • As a veteran player since 2014, I really enjoy SBMM, so the new Control is a blessing for me.Freelance Comp is great IMO.On the other hand , the Quickplay mix has become the worst experience I've ever seen in the Crucible, the sweatiest players and streamers go there to make noobs feel miserable and TBH I hate it with all my heart, feels like taking candy from a baby.It's funny how "elite" players refuse to play other guardians of their same skill

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    • -Matchmaking teams needs to really consider skill. SBMM is not real. It’s broken like before but with rotten cherries on top right now. -Bungie doesn’t understand what balance means. Recluse, Erentil, OEM, and the rest of the broken stuff in the game needs balance or everything else needs a buff. It’s a shame that you can hit multiple auto rifle shots on someone but get hit once by Recluse and just die before the other player even loses their shield after you’ve spammed your shots on them. -Laggers everywhere. On your death screen you see them teleport from once spot to another and back again. And you can’t land any shots on them because where your screen shows you they are, they are not really there. -Cheaters everywhere. Other players not taking damage. Getting kicked from matches. All we can do is report them but nothing will happen and you’ll load into the next match with them on the other team all over again even after you’ve reported them 10 times. -Stacks vs Solos. It’s really really bad. Creates an unfair advantage from the start. It makes a match even more laggy than what it would have been otherwise. -It takes too long for Bungie to even let us know they are looking into things much less actually doing something about it. And when they implement a fix, they completely obliterate all of its relevance. Hence, people feeling reluctant to ask Bungie to nerf or buff something because we know they will either destroy it from a nerf or destroy it from a buff. No balance. -Load in times take forever. And it feels even worse when you load in to a match that already started and you’re being spammed by heavy and supers as soon as you spawn in. It’s ridiculous how often this occurs too.

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    • Solo competitive crucible has never been better and this comes from a warlock main. I have gotten Luna’s, mountaintop, recluse, and Randy’s just this season because of the solo competitive mode

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      • In a lot of ways, crucible feels great now. But the outliers are serious. Recluse, OEM, high impact fusions, have all been busted for a while. Bungie takes too long to implement changes. Stuff being busted for a couple of weeks isn’t that big a deal. But for six months? A year? Just ridiculous. No excuse.

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      • Heavy shouldn't spawn in Comp, or Rumble.

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        • Lol the imbalance is epic. Heavy nade, 2 nades to kill. Secondary nades (mountain top) blast radius insta kill. Lol wut

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        • 작성자: Pord 11/8/2019 4:44:40 AM
          I really enjoy it right now. I feel like I can use almost any gun and have a good time. Not to mention momentum control is a lot of fun if you do melee only. Warlocks feel like they’re kinda left behind tho, but titans and hunters feel really good. Erianas vow mixed with a hand cannon is probably my favorite set up of all of destiny honestly. Crucible has its problems tho but I don’t feel like getting into all that

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        • Yes it's finally balanced and people can use a variety of different guns and classes.

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          • Matchmaking is still a joke and a lot more lag making some games unplayable.

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          • 1. Recluse running rampant (it’s existence contradicts the past Luna/NF nerf) 2. Fusions running rampant (too strong with current perk rolls, hit scan, range, and consistency) 3. Matchmaking still Isent working well in all playlists, but some better than others. 4. Iron banner is still very laggy 5. Super hit registration is either insanely good or insanely bad. (This could also be under melee hit registration in general) 6. Artifact mods need to go for crucible 7. Sbmm needs to go for some playlists. Keep it in comp and rotating playlists, but take it out of IB. Takes too long to find games as well as hurts playing for extended periods of time. I’m sure there’s probably a lot more.

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          • 1.) Artifact mods should be disabled 2.) We need dedicated servers 3.) Matchmaking is busted and doesn’t offer a real competitive match one way or the other 4.) Stacks vs solos must end 5.) The meta is just stupid 6.) It takes too long for Bungie to change anything and when they do, they go to the extremes instead of balancing the game 7.) Cheaters everywhere 8.) Laggy ass players running around every match 9.) Erentil and other high impact fusions need to be addressed 10.) Special ammo weapons in general are dominating and people are going for the cheesiest ways to get a kill. Skill is hardly ever a thing anymore 11.) Crucible maps are not fun 12.) Did I say something matchmaking? I’ll say it again. It’s busted. 13.) OEM and other cheesy exotics need a re-work. The only way to counter them are to use them yourself and that’s not fun 14.) Again, stacks vs solo players. Completely undermines the competitive nature of D2 PvP 15.) The list goes on. Bungie doesn’t care.

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            • Are you asking if I’m happy with hand cannons needing 3 headshots to kill with trash range when every weapon is forgiving with bodyshots? Or, if I’m happy with the “dad loadout” being the most effective? Or, with being a console player, I get shitted on if I try to play anything else that is not a Stompies hunter with NF and dusk rock blues on legend comp? Please be specific.

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              • Not happy at all I ran into 10 lobbies last night with cheaters aka network manipulators and aimbot users. I would give names and clans but I would get de-sensitized and that's funny because they would rather de-sensitize me than permanently ban cheaters.

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                • Thunder coil titans is the worst thing i have ever seen in this -blam!-ing pvp. Literaly went from missing 200 pts to get to legend, to drop all the way down to mythic 2 because all my matches i SHIT YOU NOT. Were all against full teams of clans rocking synthos + thunder coil. Aka ez comp:The game.

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                • 작성자: Dr. Kaal 11/8/2019 5:49:13 PM
                  As a passionate pvp player I’m not happy. 1. The balance is crap. OEM titans with recluse and bottom tree striker dominating the game since forever. Then we have scout/pulse meta which is boring as hell. 2. Then rewards are laughable. PvP players get 4 pinnacle rewards per month. Wtf? Not to mention the exo drop rate is abysmal in crucible. 3. Maps that only cater for either shotgun aping or sniper camping. 4. Control being a core mode instead of clash or supremacy? Boring. 5. Matchmaking where you get matched twice in a row against players having 1k higher ELO. 6. P2P connectivity in a competitive game mode. Really? Dedicated servers when? Getting tired of trading kills when it should be my win, shot behind cover, invincible enemies, teleporting enemies and etc, all because they’re lagging. It’s just stupid.

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                • I don't understand pvp so it's hard to tell.

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                • 작성자: BMFBM 11/8/2019 6:17:39 PM
                  The lag in IB, and the other non connection based lobbies is terrible. And people wonder why everyone plays the classic mix playlist. I think they need to offer more connection based lobbies. I saw somebody else posting about the artifact mods not being active in pvp and I wholeheartedly agree.

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                • No, it sucks ass. Glitchy and laggy. Getting tossed into losing matches way more now than before shadowkeep. Not getting any credit for bounties or quests at least a few times a day. Getting killed by recluse at least 10 times every match. Pretty much the team that wins now is the team that has the most recluse users on it.

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                • 작성자: Snizzy2xtra 11/6/2019 6:25:35 PM
                  PvP should be removed from this game. You guys can go play Cod, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Unknown Battlegrounds, etc. Then Bungie could actually focus on some real content in PvE.

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                  • Oh where are the mods? Sleeping on the job or turning a blind eye for so many god damn years?

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                  • No, a lot of cheese. Mountaintop/recluse, OEM, heavy in comp should be 1 round like trials in D1, handheld supernovas, artifacts.

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                  • Said no. Why? No pinnacle, SBMM even in QP playlists (not Classic, obviously), reduced effectiveness of some weapon types too much, improved others types that are STILL atrocious even after buff (looking at you, Redrix), Survival pitted me against Legends while I was at 0 Glory, Supers barely make a difference now, team shotting is the meta. I’m sure if I thought longer than 15 seconds I could come up with more.

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                  • No. It's simple. Boring. And nothing to play for. No weapons.

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                  • I really think the only thing that bothers me in crucible is being mapped by erentil. I don’t think any other fusions are bad...but that one? It scares me...

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                  • Crucible should be separated from the real game. It's very obnoxious for the many many people who hate crucible

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                    • Supers should be removed from crucible

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