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작성자: Nebutronical
10/12/2019 12:17:28 PM
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Datto’s feedback on Shadowkeep
He really speak for the community...or bit!? His feedback:
- raid is far too easy. Meanwhile most of us haven’t even started it let alone complete it
- levelling is too easy. He’s played 93 hours since launch...we all have actual jobs and scraping to level up
- Armor 2.0 is fantastic. Really??!!
So I’m assuming Bungie will take this on board even though this represents the most elite of elite try hards.
EDIT: I don’t mean to make this personal against Datto. I respect his knowledge and I obviously follow him otherwise I wouldn’t have seen the video. I guess my implicit message is that I don’t like the power Youtubers have, and certainly don’t feel their opinion represents the majority of the players. A point he himself acknowledges yet there does seem to be a correlation between what streamers say and what Bungie do. That was my main concern - I don’t think that was very clear originally
EDIT 2: some good comments both side of the coin here. Please try and not get too personal against Datto, ie some comments about his hair style etc, not really relevant!
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작성자: Bieltan 10/11/2019 7:01:54 PMLevelling your first character is just right IMO. Not too fast, not too slow. Alts on the other hand... My Titan went from 759 to 939 in 5 minutes 😂 EDIT: And the Raid is just fine IMHO. If anything, I would like to see Contest Mode brought in permanently as its own difficulty tier.
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Leveling was too easy man. Armor 2.0 is GOOD but not fantastic. Needs some work. But it does allow for some serious builds despite its shortcomings. Ive already been putting some on paper myself. The raid seems pretty straight forward dude. Just watching the gameplay twice without an actual raid guide I understood the mechanics.
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I got home from vacation Sunday night and booted up shadowkeep Monday morning. Raided Monday around 6, sitting at about 905 light, and beat the first 2 encounters. I played the next day as well and hit 925ish. I have multiple buddies who are already well over 950. Leveling is super easy. That's undeniable. You can argue the word "too" as in, maybe it's a good thing that it's easy. However, you're trying to argue that it's not easy???? Maybe you're dumb and don't comprehend averages, and that's holding back your progression. Idk. It's absolutely easy and that's not deniable.
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2 답변He said he was in the minority for the raid opinion. He said he wanted the option for a harder raid for people like him. When he mentioned the power level he was only talking about 750-900, which the game literally carries you through the levels. Stop exaggerating and being dramatic
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작성자: AeroWraith901 10/11/2019 6:30:53 PM-Only said the raid became a breeze for HIS team and ackowledged others would have a difficult time with it, but only in terms of mechanics not combat -Said leveling was so easy to the point it shouldn't exist when he was talking about getting to 900. If your talking about season rank then yeah, he said it was easy but it really is if you focus on doing the bounties. Obviously though yeah, the majority don't have as much time as he does, but people that do care about the rank, should get to the higher ranks before the season ends anyway (unless you really have a bunch of stuff in the way). So I guess that's sorta mixed for me (but personally it's been fine for me, bounties really helps) -Yeah he sees some enjoyment with jumping out of comfort zones with the elemental affinities of Armor 2.0 (which of course not everyone is on board for and I understand) but being able to swap perks around though for potential builds is nice though imo.
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I don't remember Datto ever saying he speaks for all of us. His opinions are his own, and they will NOT match up with the common populous. He is a hardcore gamer, he perceives the game differently than you or most others do. I actually agree with him on armor 2.0 being good. Haven't done the raid, but that's more to do with social anxieties than a lack of ability to do the raid. From what I've seen, the new raid, while having a LOT of mechanics, seems to have easier mechanics to pull off than most raids. So, in his raider mind, it is probably a lot easier. Leveling is easy once you know what to do. Bounties, bounties, bounties. 10 bounties, which can easily be done in an hour or 2, level you up one full level, and are abundant and easy to do. In that regard, he's got a point. If he means the power level grind is too easy, I'd have to disagree on that. a lot of things that gave powerful rewards in the past either reward very weak "powerfuls" that only give a +1 to +3 increase, and others no longer give powerfuls at all. I understand it makes the leveling process streamlined in "this is where you go to get your power up", but it makes the process so much more boring when you can't choose what you wanna do for power levels. Plus, it makes vendors like petra and ada redundant once you get all their weapons and armor.
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4 답변작성자: Spooky_Ari 10/11/2019 3:46:11 PMMaybe he should get a job outside of his paid hobby. Even Bungie employees can't play as much as him.
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15 답변Oh man, he’s so important and influential that I’ve been waiting this whole past week for him to express his thoughts... We’re such a lucky community to have an elite streamer representing us... 🙄 Realistically, I am unable to comprehend what the sheep see in this tool. Personally, I’d like to punch him, and others like him, right in the nose. I suppose if you are unable to think for yourself and have no confidence in your ability to figure things out on your own or with your team he is a gaming God to you...
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11 답변작성자: Cheebruger 10/11/2019 4:52:31 PMHe literally titled the video "Datto's thoughts." If you can't understand the point I'm making here, then you can't read. He didn't even say the raid was easy, he said that the difficulty gap between contest (20 light under) vs being regular light level is insane, which is true. You go from instant death to being immortal again. He used it as a way to ask for the return of prestige raids. He said leveling to 900 is easy, which again, is true. You literally don't even need to play if you have enough resources to just get there from vendor packages. And he said the freedom you get from armour 2.0 is fantastic. I personally don't like the elemental affinity system, but it's not hard to see that you can pick up any armour and make your build off of that. And you can change it at will Literally how do you get these things confused? Is your blind hatred for the guy that strong?
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You do realise its an opinion right? Just like your opinion the same matters, nowhere did I see him state then as fact. Armour 2.0 is dull as expect and SK is pretty good so far, not blown away but it's does the job. As for the raid I haven't tried it but will do, it's not easy for the average group, Datto forgets sometimes he has a group of top tier players to pick from, I do not.
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[quote]- raid is far too easy. Meanwhile most of us haven’t even started it let alone complete it[/quote] He played the competition mode for 12 hours. The normal raid is pretty easy compared to it. He was talking mostly about the enemies, not the mechanics and wishes for there to be harder difficulties. Did you actually watch the video?
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4 답변작성자: TJ_Dot 10/11/2019 3:42:43 PMIs this serious paraphrasing? I haven't bothered with the video. If it really is, then I'm not surprised, it's him, the guy that only cares about making you understand things while simultaneously not caring really about what people think. And that's not an insult, he's said it. He's an Elitist and it's clear as hell. The bias fits the bill. He's good for guides, but not really for opinions. Crown of Sorrow is objectively easy as hell, but in reality, is a freaking nightmare if you don't have better than average players that know how to stay alive. LFG is absolutely terrible for it. Lono said Garden is also team dependent or whatever, so that's just great.... Leveling, to 900 maybe, as is the point. 2.0 is not fantastic and I can hardly understand the costs when it's all for applying perks we already have. Like the concept is intended for something with depth, but is applied to something with very little. Then there's arbitrary restrictions to mutiply the grind for the right stats with now the element.
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1 답변It's so easy to forget in this day and age that there's an actual human being at the other end of these negative comments. People act like being massive arseholes to people is okay because it's the internet. It's Datto's job to play Destiny and to think that he offers nothing important with regards to feedback is laughable. I don't follow Datto or subscribe to his channel or anything but attacking the guy constantly is just dumb.
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3 답변It’s his opinion. Not trying to speak for the entire community. He gives his thoughts on the game like everyone else can.
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2 답변This guy has to get a life. The raid is too easy because gaming is all he does. Leveling is too easy for above reason. But I have to say the concept of armor 2.0 is amazing. It just wasn't properly executed.
