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작성자: TheMacBulls
9/30/2019 6:53:08 AM
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28 Infamy Resets and still....
I still do not have any enjoyment playing this mode. I must be a sadomasochist as I keep playing it, although I tell masel not too!
I am not as articulate as many of you, and I tend to just say what is it my head without fully thinking. As someone who mostly solo’s, these are the things that annoys me most about Gambit/Prime.... But bear with me please as Gambit had so much potential but like Crucible, they neglected it because it didn’t go the way they wanted it too.
1) Team-mates who don’t pay attention to the Mote Bar, they will run around trying to get that 1/2 motes so that they can send a Large Blocker when they need to be banking.
2) Team-mates who do not pay attention to the Mote Bar, they will run past the Bank even though they have anything ranging from 7-14 motes, just so they can get that extra motes when really, they need to be banking.
3) Team-mates who do not pay attention to the Mote Bar, they already have 15 Motes yet they are still killing adds and running past the Bank when they need to be banking.
4) Team-mates who do not pay attention to the Mote Bar, The Drifter has told us, we have enough to summon a Primevil yet Team-mates still do not bank.
5) That one Team-mate who is so determined to invade, that they just stand at the Portal waiting for it to open. “What Blockers around the Bank, I’m too busy invading to help”, “what we need motes, I’m too busy invading to help”.
6) That one Team-mate who takes the Heavy but doesn’t invade. “What Heavy is best left for a Invader, nahhhh I need it for the Red Bar Adds”.
7) Team-mates who think using their Supers at the very beginning o Primevil stage is effective.... what a complete waste o Super.
Points 1-5, 99% of the time ends up with us being invading and those people losing their motes when all they had to do was look at Mote Bar and Bank.... so simple yet so difficult for people to do.
8) The inconsistency of Add’s Resilience, why is it if I do a Public Event or Open World Activity killing Red Bar/Orange Bar is so easy I can do it wi ma eyes closed? Yet, in Gambit/Prime, these Adds become Gods? In some cases, I struggle to kill Adds in first round but in second round I can cut through them like a hot knife in butter?
9) Why is it, the more Motes I carry, the lower ma Resilience is? If I’m carrying 3 motes Add’s will rarely ever kill me but if I’m carrying 8 Motes then it takes 1/2 shots and I’m dead?
10) Why did Bungie change the Blocker types? I’m so fed up of the Teleporting, the Black Ball thingies, the Immunity that these Blockers have. Personally I feel the weapon I can use effectively is Jotunn and I don’t want to feel that I have to use a certain weapon, I want to feel that I can have a choice that is equally effective.
11) Why is there such a focus on Invasions? A good Invader does not even need to kill, to be effective.
12) Why is there no risk to invading? You invade, you die, you spawn, you invade again....
13) Why are we still able to melt Bosses? When will Bungie implement a mechanic that stops this?
14) Why is Reckoning the only way to get Prime Armour? Prime Armour should drop in Prime but if you want Enhanced Perks, then yes have Reckoning for that.
These are just some things that annoys me, I could go on but then it becomes a book. Some will agree, some will disagree and some will do
both.
EDIT: It was mentioned that I forgot one other thing....
15) The players who just push you out of the way and the players who slide in for motes even though you just need that one more.
6) After reading some comments I have changed ma opinion on this, a good Invader does not need to use Heavy. I just found it frustrating in Standard a Gambit that people would take Heavy, use it on Red Bar Adds rather than leave it for an Invader.
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[quote]I still do not have any enjoyment playing this mode. I must be a sadomasochist as I keep playing it, although I tell masel not too! I am not as articulate as many of you, and I tend to just say what is it my head without fully thinking. As someone who mostly solo’s, these are the things that annoys me most about Gambit/Prime.... But bear with me please as Gambit had so much potential but like Crucible, they neglected it because it didn’t go the way they wanted it too. 1) Team-mates who don’t pay attention to the Mote Bar, they will run around trying to get that 1/2 motes so that they can send a Large Blocker when they need to be banking. 2) Team-mates who do not pay attention to the Mote Bar, they will run past the Bank even though they have anything ranging from 7-14 motes, just so they can get that extra motes when really, they need to be banking. 3) Team-mates who do not pay attention to the Mote Bar, they already have 15 Motes yet they are still killing adds and running past the Bank when they need to be banking. 4) Team-mates who do not pay attention to the Mote Bar, The Drifter has told us, we have enough to summon a Primevil yet Team-mates still do not bank. 5) That one Team-mate who is so determined to invade, that they just stand at the Portal waiting for it to open. “What Blockers around the Bank, I’m too busy invading to help”, “what we need motes, I’m too busy invading to help”. 6) That one Team-mate who takes the Heavy but doesn’t invade. “What Heavy is best left for a Invader, nahhhh I need it for the Red Bar Adds”. 7) Team-mates who think using their Supers at the very beginning o Primevil stage is effective.... what a complete waste o Super. Points 1-5, 99% of the time ends up with us being invading and those people losing their motes when all they had to do was look at Mote Bar and Bank.... so simple yet so difficult for people to do. 8) The inconsistency of Add’s Resilience, why is it if I do a Public Event or Open World Activity killing Red Bar/Orange Bar is so easy I can do it wi ma eyes closed? Yet, in Gambit/Prime, these Adds become Gods? In some cases, I struggle to kill Adds in first round but in second round I can cut through them like a hot knife in butter? 9) Why is it, the more Motes I carry, the lower ma Resilience is? If I’m carrying 3 motes Add’s will rarely ever kill me but if I’m carrying 8 Motes then it takes 1/2 shots and I’m dead? 10) Why did Bungie change the Blocker types? I’m so fed up of the Teleporting, the Black Ball thingies, the Immunity that these Blockers have. Personally I feel the weapon I can use effectively is Jotunn and I don’t want to feel that I have to use a certain weapon, I want to feel that I can have a choice that is equally effective. 11) Why is there such a focus on Invasions? A good Invader does not even need to kill, to be effective. 12) Why is there no risk to invading? You invade, you die, you spawn, you invade again.... 13) Why are we still able to melt Bosses? When will Bungie implement a mechanic that stops this? 14) Why is Reckoning the only way to get Prime Armour? Prime Armour should drop in Prime but if you want Enhanced Perks, then yes have Reckoning for that. These are just some things that annoys me, I could go on but then it becomes a book. Some will agree, some will disagree and some will do both. EDIT: It was mentioned that I forgot one other thing.... 15) The players who just push you out of the way and the players who slide in for motes even though you just need that one more. 6) After reading some comments I have changed ma opinion on this, a good Invader does not need to use Heavy. I just found it frustrating in Standard a Gambit that people would take Heavy, use it on Red Bar Adds rather than leave it for an Invader.[/quote] You do know gambit matches are weighted right?
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My conclusion, before I decided to just not bother with Gambit at all, is that it’s an intriguing game mode with a lot of promise but is given literally [i]every[/i] opportunity to be an utterly [i]miserable[/i] experience. It’s a game mode that I can only describe as being [i]built[/i] to fail, and only with 100% participation and focus by all participants can it be an enjoyable mode. Almost all of the issues you listed happen almost every match for me. It’s crazy. I’m honestly impressed that Bungie managed to create something with such extreme dichotomy.
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1 답변I mean, it's ok not to play Gambit. I do just enough every season to get the gear from it that I want and that's enough. If you grind out 28 resets, at some point you just have to realize that this problem is on you.
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Honestly couldn't agree more. Though everyone has their own style of play. Sometimes I run with meta loadouts or whatever I feel like sidearm and sword. Gambit Prime will be an afterthought once Shadowkeep takes over tomorrow.
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2 답변I need 3 resets for the ghost to get dredgen still. I took season 7 off, figures it turned out to actually be more my style with building up the menagerie and the tribute hall. Anyways, I might finally do it since I'll be chasing down Hush and Exit Strategy. I just need to adopt a don't give a shit about winning or losing attitude so I don't lose my mind over a lot of the stuff you mentioned.
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1 답변Sometimes I’ll play and everything feels normal. Other times it seems red bars are chewing through me like paper. As for heavy, everyone “needs” heavy. Just because you save the heavy for an invader doesn’t mean they are necessarily good with it. I personally like to have a brick handy to eliminate the invaders which I feel is just as important. Sometimes I’ll be running for a mote and a teammate will jump over me to get it. If I see someone running toward something with intent then my time is better spent heading somewhere someone is not for efficiency sake.
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1 답변People think just because you play, you have to enjoy EVERYTHING. Not true. I grinded a lot to get Dredgen title during season 5 without boosted infamy, & by the end of it, I didn’t feel like touching Gambit again. The grind is just too long and tedious for very little reward. They are far from reaching that sweet spot of how much to grind, and knowing how incompetent, lazy and greedy they are, I have no hope or delusion whatsoever of them improving (unlike the blind fanboys).
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5 답변작성자: Jenn 9/30/2019 8:41:02 AMAs a Dredgen (not proud of this title lol) I agree with everything here. Just like to add: When Drifter says “ Envoys are dead, now kill the primeval” BUT BOTH ENVOYS ARE STILL ALIVE. That grinds my gears.
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7 답변Just curious but why do u have so many resets if u don’t enjoy it? I don’t like it either. Once I’m max level/have everything from it then I stop playing till next lvl cap increase or until a quest forces me in. It had potential but missed the mark
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2 답변작성자: Lumis 9/30/2019 11:51:26 AM#8 annoys the crap out of me. Enemies have tons of health and you're expected to get bow kills for the pinnacle weapon. You might as well be spitting at some of the enemies when using a bow against them. 😂
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4 답변You can try other games too. Destiny is a casino. I understand it’s hard to get out of such a business, everything is sociologically elaborated to keep you in. It’s an addiction enhancing game. There are parts of it that are forbidden in actual real casinos, but the regulation on video games is still not adequate permitting crooks to abuse the weak. Or then you can go out of the house, get a job, meet friends, enjoy life, do things that will slowly make you realize that you’re just wasting your time with this game.
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3 답변Maybe the fact you have played 28 resets. That alot of time spent on an activity you don't like. I'd recommend trying another activity if this bores you.
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6 답변[quote]I still do not have any enjoyment playing this mode. I must be a sadomasochist as I keep playing it, although I tell masel not too! I am not as articulate as many of you, and I tend to just say what is it my head without fully thinking. As someone who mostly solo’s, these are the things that annoys me most about Gambit/Prime.... But bear with me please as Gambit had so much potential but like Crucible, they neglected it because it didn’t go the way they wanted it too. 1) Team-mates who don’t pay attention to the Mote Bar, they will run around trying to get that 1/2 motes so that they can send a Large Blocker when they need to be banking. 2) Team-mates who do not pay attention to the Mote Bar, they will run past the Bank even though they have anything ranging from 7-14 motes, just so they can get that extra motes when really, they need to be banking. 3) Team-mates who do not pay attention to the Mote Bar, they already have 15 Motes yet they are still killing adds and running past the Bank when they need to be banking. 4) Team-mates who do not pay attention to the Mote Bar, The Drifter has told us, we have enough to summon a Primevil yet Team-mates still do not bank. 5) That one Team-mate who is so determined to invade, that they just stand at the Portal waiting for it to open. “What Blockers around the Bank, I’m too busy invading to help”, “what we need motes, I’m too busy invading to help”. 6) That one Team-mate who takes the Heavy but doesn’t invade. “What Heavy is best left for a Invader, nahhhh I need it for the Red Bar Adds”. 7) Team-mates who think using their Supers at the very beginning o Primevil stage is effective.... what a complete waste o Super. Points 1-5, 99% of the time ends up with us being invading and those people losing their motes when all they had to do was look at Mote Bar and Bank.... so simple yet so difficult for people to do. 8) The inconsistency of Add’s Resilience, why is it if I do a Public Event or Open World Activity killing Red Bar/Orange Bar is so easy I can do it wi ma eyes closed? Yet, in Gambit/Prime, these Adds become Gods? In some cases, I struggle to kill Adds in first round but in second round I can cut through them like a hot knife in butter? 9) Why is it, the more Motes I carry, the lower ma Resilience is? If I’m carrying 3 motes Add’s will rarely ever kill me but if I’m carrying 8 Motes then it takes 1/2 shots and I’m dead? 10) Why did Bungie change the Blocker types? I’m so fed up of the Teleporting, the Black Ball thingies, the Immunity that these Blockers have. Personally I feel the weapon I can use effectively is Jotunn and I don’t want to feel that I have to use a certain weapon, I want to feel that I can have a choice that is equally effective. 11) Why is there such a focus on Invasions? A good Invader does not even need to kill, to be effective. 12) Why is there no risk to invading? You invade, you die, you spawn, you invade again.... 13) Why are we still able to melt Bosses? When will Bungie implement a mechanic that stops this? 14) Why is Reckoning the only way to get Prime Armour? Prime Armour should drop in Prime but if you want Enhanced Perks, then yes have Reckoning for that. These are just some things that annoys me, I could go on but then it becomes a book. Some will agree, some will disagree and some will do both.[/quote] I got the weapon and never touched it. I can’t stand gambit.
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1 답변I think you might have played too much gambit for some crazy reason unknown to even yourself. No one needs anywhere near close to even 10 resets and that’s playing hard. Nothing to be rewarded from all that unless you’re really bad at getting auto/bow kills for weapon quests lol.
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1 답변With regards to "HeavyAmmo", I pick it up if no one is there and save it for the boss fight. I never use it just to clear ads.
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3 답변작성자: Blaxsun 9/30/2019 2:41:43 AMI received my last Gambit Pinnacle weapon this weekend and am looking forward to never having to play another match of Gambit again. [b]Ever.[/b] I couldn’t agree more with the points made. If you get stuck with or two hapless idiots on your team your only recourse is to tank the game, as there’s zero benefit in trying (rewards are garbage in Prime unless you win). Quitting isn’t an option because you get penalized with a suspension if you drop more than one game of Gambit.
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1 답변I agree with everything except #5. What you're seeing are people trying to get a quest, bounty or triumph done.
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1 답변Yeah, a lot of people dont seem to grasp the concept of banking wisely. Pro tip for these people: banking is rarely done at your own convenience. Sometimes its worth dropping a handful in to help get your invasion portal open. Sometimes its worth dropping that 10-12 just so you dont make yourself a priority target of that invasion thats imminent. Keeping tabs on the mote bar is [i]so[/i] crucial.
