Understandable. Perhaps hold off purchasing SK until you see exactly what's included.

I pre-ordered Forsaken with an annual pass...Never finished the raid and didn't touch any of the DLC before Opulence. After grinding comp to get the pinnacle weapons i was over it. Definitely going to wait and see the reaction to Shadowkeep once it launches. I have high hopes because i want a reason to keep playing this game, but i'm a bit worried they'll do something stupid and ruin it. The gameplay is smooth and the graphics are great... But this game could be so much more. It has great lore and a story that could be great if they actually spent some time on the story. I personally think Exotic quests should have cut scenes because that would be a great way to dive deep into the lore since a lot of it revolves around exotic gear. D2 doesn't actually have strikes, they are just missions, and the playlist picks the same 3 every single time. PvP is a total disaster... match making is way off, connections are a major issue, the maps are mostly terrible. Very few maps have a good mixture of space, which promotes a very confined Meta. Plus Supers are just not in a happy place right now. You can die by the same super 2-3 times because the spawns are terrible and roaming supers seem to last forever. I personally miss having Supers that were more powerful but had less time to roam. Probably doesn't help that the hit registration is sometimes non existent, so you spend your entire super trying to kill one person just to run out and then they kill you. No one cared about Gambit when it came out and no one really cares now, which is sad, because it had a lot of potential to be great. So much they could improve without making any significant changes. Good PvP, bring back real strikes, spend some time on the story and lore, and bring more variety in exotics... Boom, the game would be in a great place.

See you 2 weekend after borderlands you always come back and no one care if you leave the game anyway

If Bungie is so hell bent on giving reskins can we at least get reskin of D1 titan armor ? D1 titan armor: Looks like actual space super soldier armor and you feel like Halo Reach Spartan. D2 titan armor: Can not hear the complaints over the massive shoulder pads blocking their head off with most shaders looking pretty bad on them too.

Fortnite didn’t invent the battle pass you know...there’s other games that used this model that’s clearly sustainable amongst live-service games.

Why can’t people get it in their heads that the “battle pass” is literally what we have now except you can buy individual seasons? The reason why they’re using this model is that it works. Before it was used in fortnight, it was used in tons of mmos just in the form of temporary access to dlc. The entire reason is to support the hardware that it currently does and their lack of storage while providing new content at a pace that we’re used to. It’s just smart. Stop complaining and if you don’t like it, let them know by not buying it. All I have to say on the reskined raid loot is that this is info that was just shot on a test build at pax. Dmg has come out and said that more info about this particular issue is going to be in this weeks TWAB. I’d say wait to make any sweeping decisions until we get all the info, but that’s just my personal opinion. Not going to buy things until I have all the facts.

Re-skined raid armor: oh you mean EoS and Spire didn't cross the line for you? Fortnite battle pass: it's basically a collections book like in Destiny 1... That you can purchase for some stupid reason

Obsidian is making a new game, and cyberpunk is coming along at a healthy pace. Warframe is supposed to be getting a huge update sometime in October. I will definitely moving away from this IP and it suks because I really believed in bungie. Just like other Triple A developers they have chosen the $ over the fans. Remember Need for speed underground it was made by EA, COD before 2010 that was Activision, not even going to mention Bethsada they know what they did. It happens, devs change, some good some bad and now it appears Bungie is on its way. To where is unclear but time will tell.

Lol destiny had the idea before fortnite was even thought of, destiny 1 had the system first

You can play both games I don't like BL3s cartoon art style , and I think it will have too much loot , if 40 guns are exactly the same with a very slight hardly noticable difference , then thats a watered down loot pool

Good riddance

“Battle” Pass does represent the slippery slope; but I think people, who’re gonna be purchasing Shadowkeep anyways, are overreacting a tad bit. Regarding the raid armor, re-skins are a part of this game and maybe if more than 1 or 2% of the community were consistently running raids; this would seem like a bigger issue. Look, I know that sounds dismissive and I’m always for more originality than less, but until Bungo does the bare minimum for a MMO, especially given the nature of console, to grow their raiding numbers; this just another thing on a long list of bungles for Bungo.

Clearly you didn’t play ROI or you would know a “battle pass” was already here. Do some research next time kid

[quote][b] I’m losing h0pe for shadowkeep fast [/b][/quote] /FTFM

Seeya in October ✌

[quote]-re-skinned raid armor -fortnite style battle pass Omg I might actually switch over to borderlands because of this ridiculousness[/quote] That’s the problem with hype, the luster comes of the poo poo quickly Lol

I’ve already pre ordered after all leaks and updates. It’s the only game I play so...... [spoiler]best wishes[/spoiler]