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원본 게시물 출처: Seasons in Destiny 2's third year
8/29/2019 10:25:05 PM
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I love the communication. Honestly have a loathing for battle pass systems though. I am someone who plays regularly so reaching max won't be too much but seeing weapons there ... Doesn't sit well with me.
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  • Why? Itll probably have some bad stock roll. It's not like that's the only way to get the weapons (unless it is in which case I would be very angry)

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  • Oh I love this community. First defence was "it's just cosmetic items" and it's turbes into "it's just stock rolled weapon, won't even have good rolls" What's next?

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  • 1: This person does not represent everybody else in the community, please be angry with this specific person and not everybody else 2: The only problem this really has is the idea that you can pay for ranks once the season ends. Otherwise it's just paying for content you would have gotten anyway. The premium track is included free in the season pass, so it's not like people are paying exclusively for this until those rank payments open up, and though I agree the rank payments shouldn't be a thing, they don't become a thing until the last two weeks so nobody is getting an advantage over anybody else by paying. 3: Yeah I agree this is some serious denial of the fact that there is a problem. The system will definitely help to guarantee that people who play the game enough will get the items, but it shouldn't be something that you can pay exclusively for when the season ends. There is definitely pay to win elements to it, and though I can legitimately see the intention bungie had here, allowing people to pay for ranks to appease the people who "Couldn't get on that one week" is stupid. Otherwise though, this is no more p2w than the existence of season passes and dlc would be. There were items exclusive to every dlc, and people who payed had an advantage. This way, at least people will be guaranteed an item after a certain point, and seasonal exotics do seem to be allowed to the people who didn't pay.

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  • I am not angry but if we need to classify it I'd say I am just sad that this is not the Destiny I fell in love with and played exclusively. Also he is not the only player in the community to think this way (i think some of them call themselves loud minority of the silent majority :D) Therefore you did not need to take personally. I got a decent full-time job that doesn't make me rich at all but I'd be able to afford deluxe no problem whatsoever. Therefore, it is not about the money. However, you cannot deny that it is a pattern that they are adding guns into a store that which it can be bought from which is a start for true P2W path. Destiny may or may not become one or at least become as bad as i think it will over the time. I just no longer have that strong passion to wait another 6 months to where this is going, Bungie had 5 years and implemented contradicting things at every corner to our surprise or leaving things in game to rot. Bungie has done a few changes I thought would be bad and turned out to be for the better or at least gets that situation into a neutral state (like enchantment cores, I am still not happy they are used for progression not master working, but I got no problems getting enough after I reached 750). However, the most changes screwed players over and over again. I just hate the way Bungie has been handling the game. Just like Ra's al Ghul says in Batman Begins "Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding." Ofcourse Bungie is not criminal but more like has been dishonest until the last second. I love some changes like Armor 2.0 that is something I'd grind for that perfect build but at the same time I hate that they take away a whole season for 6 months. I have recluse, revoker, delirium 21%, hush, breakneck, loaded question (all pinnacle weapons apart from Mountain top, LH, and NF). I got most of them out of their season to begin with and now I will have to wait 6 month to be able to start their grind from 0 or continue? But I'd be able to buy them off? This is the definition of cash grab for me. Destiny will no longer have things to grind long term but will cater to people with extreme time on their hand as far as it seems. of course the final judgement cannot be made until we see how all works out but the future does not seem so bright.

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  • I'm not in denial of anything. I'm just waiting to see what the season actually looks and plays like before being the judge of it.

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  • That's a good mindset to be in, I'll give you that. But while I think this is going to be really good for the most part... the exotic weapons being purchasable is a bit of a problem, even if it only happens at the last two weeks of the season.

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  • Yeah, people should earn the new hand canon, but anyone who buys shadowkeep literally gets it day 1. We have to see what the top tier rewards are and if they're worth purchasing/heavily impactful for people to actually buy ranks.

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  • 작성자: OdinsKnight101 8/29/2019 10:54:11 PM
    I stare at them and just become increasingly angry. Couldn't tell you why. I'd be way less angry if those rewards where just universal, ornamental Armour and the weapon ones where ornaments for specific guns. They do mention that they aren't ''Gone for good'' after a season, which is a relief but I.. Just don't like it in any way shape or form. It's still true that even if it's only for a week at the season, you can ''pay'' for the ranks and that will not ever sit well with me. At the least my money isn't going to Activation of all things. Putting glimmer on there is also pitiful to just look at. I'll try to not look at that screen then I have too but if I need scroll around it constantly for the weapons on what I need to do for re-rolls.. Gah! I hate this service level, bargain basement ad to casuals.

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  • You're probably angry because battle passes can be paid to unlock the tiers instead of actual gameplay, which I dont like as well. However, I DO like that it is a way for players with less time to progress in some way even if they are trying to grind other things. For example, I once grinded reckoning for about 4 hours. In total, I got about 2 smgs and 3 auto rifles, none with any good rolls. It felt like complete shit when I didnt see a single spare rations. The season pass thing allows to actually visually see rewards that you WILL get just for playing and not praying to RNGesus. As long as the season pass doesnt overtake the new activity in relevance, and isnt pay to win bs, then I'm fine with it.

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